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7/21/2008 5:27:36 PM EDT
who has the cheapest Chrome Carrier assy. or is it best to just stick away from it and get the standard?
7/21/2008 5:42:28 PM EDT
[#1]
You can buy quality, or you can buy twice.

Stay away from cheap chrome carriers/bolts.
7/21/2008 6:01:30 PM EDT
[#2]
Yeah thats some good advice thanks
7/22/2008 8:16:42 AM EDT
[#3]
How do you determine good chrome from bad chrome?
7/22/2008 8:21:40 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
How do you determine good chrome from bad chrome?


By the manufacturer.

DPMS is low end and does not have a good reputation. No-name chrome carriers are probably DPMS.

Young Manufacturing is high end and has an excellent reputation. But they cost a bit more. Not too much, but the difference is worth it.
7/22/2008 10:00:48 AM EDT
[#5]
ok thanks good to know
7/22/2008 10:25:24 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
ok thanks good to know


You're welcome. I have also heard good things about some other (even more expensive) chromed carriers but have no personal experience with them.
7/26/2008 12:34:03 PM EDT
[#7]
I just finished a build ,I used a Young chrome NM complete bolt assy. I would rate it a 10. you can feel a difference in recoil . it was a breeze to clean .and it looks KOOL in there too.
7/26/2008 4:43:39 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
You can buy quality, or you can buy twice.

Stay away from cheap chrome carriers/bolts.


Good advice.
7/27/2008 1:54:24 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
How do you determine good chrome from bad chrome?


By the manufacturer.

DPMS is low end and does not have a good reputation. No-name chrome carriers are probably DPMS.

 


You can spot a DPMS POS easily enough.  It has a "D" on the left side, and is full of tool marks and gouges.
7/27/2008 2:20:07 AM EDT
[#10]
I wouldn't worry too much about the chrome carrier, get the best you can.  But do NOT get a chrome bolt assembly.  They have a nasty reputation of suffering from hydrogen embrittlement.
7/27/2008 4:31:05 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
But do NOT get a chrome bolt assembly.  They have a nasty reputation of suffering from hydrogen embrittlement.


This is a "cut & paste" from another thread:



This statement comes from improperly applied hard chrome, any plater who has ANY experience with applying hard chrome know the proper procedure to deal with hydrogen embrittlement that can occur during the plating process.


Hydrogen Embrittlement
Is a process resulting in a decrease of the toughness or ductility of a metal due to the presence of     atomic hydrogen. Hydrogen embrittlement has been recognized classically as being of two types. The first known as internal hydrogen embrittlement, occurs when the hydrogen enters molten metal which becomes supersaturated with hydrogen immediately after solidification. The second type, environmental hydrogen embrittlement, results from hydrogen being absorbed by solid metals.

Hydrogen  embrittlement  is  a major cause of fastener failure.  Prevailing thought is that steels with  Rockwell  hardness  above  C30 are vulnerable.  The phenomenon  is  well-known  although  the  precise  mechanism has eluded extensive research.  A number  of  proposed  mechanisms  have  been  proposed,  and  most have at least some  merit.  Current  thinking  is that the susceptibility to hydrogen embrittlement is related  directly  to  the  trap population.  Generally,  hydrogen  embrittlement can be described as absorption and adsorption of hydrogen promoting enhanced decohesion of  the steel,  primarily as an intergranular phenomenon.

Electroplating  is  a  major  cause  of  hydrogen  embrittlement.  Some  hydrogen  is  generated  during  the  cleaning  and  pickling cycles,  but by far the most significant  source  is  cathodic  inefficiency,  which  is  followed  by  sealing  the hydrogen in the  parts. Baking  must be  performed on high strength parts to reduce this risk,  and the  ASTM,  in 1994,  issued a specification for baking cycles, as shown below. For the plater, having to adhere to the post plating baking cycles is mandatory to certify meeting the mil specs.



When it is improperly applied it can make steel VERY brittle! DANGEROUSLY BRITTLE!

Hydrogen embrittlement has been known about for decades, any shop that currently does hard chroming should be very familiar with this and also be aware of how to prevent it. If your concerned, follow the chart and bake it out!

There are numerous platers who cater to the firearms industry and know the proper plating procedures.

Accurate Plating
Checkmate Plating
Metalife Plating

To mention just a few. If you purchase a Young carrier & bolt that is all ready plated you don't have a damn thing to worry about.

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