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10/9/2007 11:38:50 AM EDT
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I already have a RRA 16" carbine and was thinking for the next build to try a mid-length.  I like using completed uppers...just because I don't have all the tools to build my own.

That said I would like to find a 16" or 18" finished flat-top upper with mid-length gas, the most lightweight barrel possible, and the option for BUIS.  After much searching it seems that only a few vendors offer such items.  So far I have found:

CMMG 16” M10M Upper $525
CMMG 18" SPR Upper w/Mid Length Gas $525
CMMG M18M Rifle Length SPR Upper $575
-or-
RRA Elite CAR A4 $645
-but-
BravoCompany is out of stock on their BCM 16" Mid Length Upper Receiver Group

I did find an Armalite offering, however,:

Armalite M15A4CB Mid-Length Upper Receiver at http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=631 for $490

So...
Are these basically my upper options, besides custom builds?

If I went the Armalite way...could I easily build it up on any lower I choose?  I have shot an older complete Armalite rifle...but never built anything using their components...

Any advice would be much appreciated.




10/9/2007 12:04:47 PM EDT
[#1]
Check Del-Ton.  I believe that they are currently featuring a complete flat top, 16" midlength gas system with flip up front sight for $425.
10/9/2007 12:17:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Just buy the tools and swap barrels.  It's not hard to do.  
Once you have a midlength, you won't want to shoot a carbine anyways.  
10/9/2007 2:28:05 PM EDT
[#3]
The Del-Ton has an HBAR.
10/9/2007 6:21:21 PM EDT
[#5]
I have this and think it is great.  I have this in the ss upper.  RG

CMMG 18" SPR Upper w/Mid Length Gas $525
10/12/2007 5:57:25 PM EDT
[#6]
If you want a high quality upper assy. factory complete. go with CMMG ,Sabre Def. or LMT. or spend more money and go with a custom build. Anything less would be for  recreational use only.
10/12/2007 6:11:15 PM EDT
[#7]
If you want a lightweight midlength barrel, right now CMMG or custom are your only options.

Armalite is a pretty good midweight profile as is Denny's Operator barrel.

Decide what ammo compatibility you want first as this will dictate your selection of barrel twist rate.


Quoted:
If you want a high quality upper assy. factory complete. go with CMMG ,Sabre Def. or LMT. or spend more money and go with a custom build. Anything less would be for  recreational use only.

LMT doesn't make midlengths.
10/13/2007 10:26:07 AM EDT
[#8]
You can try ADCO Firearms.  He has good prices on his complete uppers (RRA and etc.)
10/13/2007 3:34:12 PM EDT
[#9]
i have the CMMG 16 middy, stainless. very very nice.
10/13/2007 5:16:37 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Just buy the tools and swap barrels.  It's not hard to do.  
Once you have a midlength, you won't want to shoot a carbine anyways.  


I agree. It is easy, the tools are cheap, and it is much more fun when you can start putting upper receiver, barrel, handguard, etc together all by yerself.  I built up an AR starting with a 20" WOA barrel i picked up.  Way fun and yes, you'll eschew (look it up) the carbine once you shoot something in the 18-20 range.
10/14/2007 2:01:29 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Just buy the tools and swap barrels.  It's not hard to do.  
Once you have a midlength, you won't want to shoot a carbine anyways.  


I agree. It is easy, the tools are cheap, and it is much more fun when you can start putting upper receiver, barrel, handguard, etc together all by yerself.  I built up an AR starting with a 20" WOA barrel i picked up.  Way fun and yes, you'll eschew (look it up) the carbine once you shoot something in the 18-20 range.



Carbine vs midlength is not the length of the barrel, it's the gas system length.
10/15/2007 7:27:14 PM EDT
[#12]
I have a approx. 1500 rounds thru my CMMG lightweight 1-7" and it has run absolutely flawlessly.

About 700 rounds of that were tracers.  GREAT fun!
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