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10/3/2007 6:05:06 PM EDT
I want to get a couple of lower recievers before they get "restricted" again. I want one for an AR-15 and the other for a CAR-15. I was looking for suggestions on the best ones to get. All I know is that DPMS and Bushmaster are good.

Also there isn't really a reason that a standard lower will not work with a collapsible stock is there?

Thanks,

Ron
10/3/2007 7:09:02 PM EDT
[#1]
Most forged receivers are g2g.  The only thing to steer clear of is anything with Vulcan or Hesse on it.

Good Forged Receivers:
Armalite
Bushmaster
LAR
LMT
Colt
Ameetec
Spike's
Anvil Arms
DPMS
MEGA
RRA
Superior
Stag
POF - billet
Sundevil - billet
10/3/2007 7:13:37 PM EDT
[#2]
The forged ones are all pretty much the same with a few variances in finish. The best one is the one that has the roll mark & price you like the best.
10/3/2007 7:24:22 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I want to get a couple of lower recievers before they get "restricted" again. I want one for an AR-15 and the other for a CAR-15. I was looking for suggestions on the best ones to get. All I know is that DPMS and Bushmaster are good.

Also there isn't really a reason that a standard lower will not work with a collapsible stock is there?

Thanks,

Ron


I'd like to know more about this as well.

Would Noveske make the list?

What receivers have the safe/fire markings using "bullets" in white/red? I know POF has them but it appears no one has any in stock.

I'd appreciate any help.
Thanks
Tom
10/3/2007 7:24:37 PM EDT
[#4]
is there another AWB on the front?
10/3/2007 7:27:13 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
is there another AWB on the front?


I doubt it considering it cost some politicians their jobs in the long run, however you never know
10/3/2007 7:34:15 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I want to get a couple of lower recievers before they get "restricted" again. I want one for an AR-15 and the other for a CAR-15. I was looking for suggestions on the best ones to get. All I know is that DPMS and Bushmaster are good.

Also there isn't really a reason that a standard lower will not work with a collapsible stock is there?

Thanks,

Ron


I'd like to know more about this as well.

Would Noveske make the list?

What receivers have the safe/fire markings using "bullets" in white/red? I know POF has them but it appears no one has any in stock.

I'd appreciate any help.
Thanks
Tom



Yes Noveske would be fine.  I was just thinking of manufacturers off the top of my head, and forgot Noveske.  Spike's Tactical has bullet marked lower receivers.
10/3/2007 7:49:09 PM EDT
[#7]
I like Bushmaster/LAR/Cavalry Arms AL.
10/3/2007 10:31:55 PM EDT
[#8]
VLTOR are excellent as well. Noveske has excellent customer service.
10/3/2007 11:19:00 PM EDT
[#9]
here is an N4
10/3/2007 11:24:20 PM EDT
[#10]
I have Spikes and RRA  like them both very well.
looking at getting some superior lowers to see how they do.  and maybe a double star.
10/4/2007 5:34:36 AM EDT
[#11]
I have an LRB that I'm slowly working on. As this is my first build, I don't really have any experience in comparing with others. HOWEVER, the lower is manufactured by JV Precision which also makes the Double Star. It is a low shelf receiver as well. LRB now has uppers to match.

The quality, fit, and finish on my lower when I got it was outstanding. It's mil-spec, but not Teflon coated like a MEGA. I used a Stag LPK and everything went together fine. I highly recommend this lower. I don't know why this lower doesn't get more attention than it does. The price is right and it has a cool rollmark, IMO. These are the same folks that make the forged/CNC machined M1A receivers.

From their website"Our new semi auto LRB ARMS M15SA lower receiver is made from aircraft grade 7075-T6 aluminum forgings, same as currently used by the US military. The forgings are CNC machined on the same state of the art equipment which manufactures our M14SA receivers, with tolerances held to one thousandth of an inch. Finish is a hard coat anodize per MIL-A-8625. Our receivers accept all mil-spec internal parts, and are compatable with all other aftermarket mil-spec upper receivers. Oh yes...it's 100% made in America.

STRIPPED RECEIVER..................$109.95
STRIPPED FLATTOP....................$89.95
STRIPPED RECEIVER AND LOWER PARTS KIT..........................................$179.95"

If you get one, I don't think you will be disappointed.
10/4/2007 7:48:16 AM EDT
[#12]
There is a new Sabre Defence stripped lower on GB right now for $99 (I'm not the seller, and don't know the seller).  That is a good deal for a nice lower I think.
10/4/2007 9:42:24 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I want to get a couple of lower recievers before they get "restricted" again. I want one for an AR-15 and the other for a CAR-15. I was looking for suggestions on the best ones to get. All I know is that DPMS and Bushmaster are good.

Also there isn't really a reason that a standard lower will not work with a collapsible stock is there?

Thanks,

Ron


I'd like to know more about this as well.

Would Noveske make the list?

What receivers have the safe/fire markings using "bullets" in white/red? I know POF has them but it appears no one has any in stock.

I'd appreciate any help.
Thanks
Tom


spikes tactical lowers come with bullet markings

spikestactical.com
lanworldinc.com
10/4/2007 10:32:50 AM EDT
[#14]
thanks for the help bb and rcr, i'll check them out
10/4/2007 10:37:07 AM EDT
[#15]
They all get the job done. My ultimate decision came down to overall appearance. I went with Mega for my last build. I liked the deep black Teflon finish and beautiful rollmarks so much that I bought a second set of stripped upper/lower receivers for my next build.



10/4/2007 3:59:50 PM EDT
[#16]
Has anyone used Essential Arms receivers?
10/4/2007 6:28:58 PM EDT
[#17]
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Quoted:
Has anyone used Essential Arms receivers?


i have 2 of there lowers. acutally i have had them for a couple years. i just finished a build with one but havent shot it. the other gets sbr paper work in the mail tomorrow. i bought them from members having good things to say about them 2 yrs ago. i doubt much has changed. the price is right.
10/4/2007 9:11:10 PM EDT
[#18]
jf you can find one MEGA
10/5/2007 9:51:03 AM EDT
[#19]
They used to have cast, now they are forged.  Which do you have?  At $77 per, it is hard to beat.
10/5/2007 11:09:15 PM EDT
[#20]
http://www.kisermunitions.com/?page=shop/browse&category=lowerreceivers

Not a bad receiver for the $$$.  
10/6/2007 12:13:56 AM EDT
[#21]
mil-spec, forged Al, (T676 i believe) are the better ones for the price

billets are another option, if you got the cash

10/6/2007 4:20:02 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Most forged receivers are g2g.  The only thing to steer clear of is anything with Vulcan or Hesse on it.

Good Forged Receivers:
Armalite
Bushmaster
LAR
LMT
Colt
Wilson Combat
Ameetec
Spike's
Anvil Arms
DPMS
MEGA
RRA
Superior
Stag
POF - billet
Sundevil - billet
10/6/2007 6:33:39 AM EDT
[#23]
i've had great luck with double star lowers, dpms, cmt, and rock river lowers have also been good for me. my next projects will be using spikes tactical and anvil arms
10/9/2007 7:49:34 PM EDT
[#24]
Anybody have any experience with National Ordnance Company lowers out of Houston, TX?
10/9/2007 8:05:00 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Most forged receivers are g2g.  The only thing to steer clear of is anything with Vulcan or Hesse on it.

Good Forged Receivers:
Armalite
Bushmaster
LAR
LMT
Colt
Wilson Combat
Ameetec
Spike's
Anvil Arms
DPMS
MEGA
RRA
Superior
Stag
POF - billet
Sundevil - billet


I have a wilson combat upper and it's f'kn DIVINE. Wish they weren't on the black list in Ca, I'd love to match it up  
10/10/2007 3:47:10 AM EDT
[#26]
Don't spend to much time worrying about this. Just about any forged lower is fine. The differences between them are all subtle and pretty much meaningless. That said, having used a number of different lowers, I would say that CMT milled lowers are my favorite for the very clean milling and generally tight lockup. CMT mills a number of the lowers out there, "RRA" lowers being my favorite as I like the logo and "name brand" aspect of them. I liked them a lot more back when they sold for ~$100 . Stag lowers are pretty much the same except for the ugly logo but at $30-$50 less money, maybe I could learn to like the logo

Really, with so many good options, I would just look around and find which ever one you like the best or which ever one you can buy the cheapest depending on which one of those criteria is more important to you? The way I look at it is, so what if the lower you want is $30 more then some other option. You are going to use it to build a rifle worth anywhere from $700 to well over $2k so what's an extra $30 or whatever to get the one you really want?
10/10/2007 10:09:19 AM EDT
[#27]
Global Tactical a.k.a. Denny's Guns by CMT.

10/10/2007 12:25:06 PM EDT
[#28]
i have had Doulblestar and MEGA, but like everyone said stick with a Forged or billet, and stay away from hesse/vulcan.

10/10/2007 1:10:03 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
Global Tactical a.k.a. Denny's Guns by CMT.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/comp1911/Guns/Dsc01006.jpg


+1 for Denny's GTS lower.  
10/10/2007 7:50:39 PM EDT
[#30]
Mega Mega Mega
10/11/2007 9:26:10 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Mega Mega Mega


+1

actually...+5 (i picked up another 3 recently~)
10/11/2007 1:41:43 PM EDT
[#32]
DPMS I have has a tight mag well and the lines inside the magwell are not as sharp and defined as other lowers I have. I think DPMS lowers are cheap and out of spec! So goes for the rest of thier stuff. I am only speaking from experience.
One of my favorite recievers is actually an Eagle Arms made by Armalite on the same machines that they make thier Armalite marked lowers. Also Sabre Defence makes nice lowers ans barrels and everything else they offer!
10/11/2007 2:09:55 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
Don't spend to much time worrying about this. Just about any forged lower is fine. The differences between them are all subtle and pretty much meaningless. That said, having used a number of different lowers, I would say that CMT milled lowers are my favorite for the very clean milling and generally tight lockup. CMT mills a number of the lowers out there, "RRA" lowers being my favorite as I like the logo and "name brand" aspect of them. I liked them a lot more back when they sold for ~$100 . Stag lowers are pretty much the same except for the ugly logo but at $30-$50 less money, maybe I could learn to like the logo

Really, with so many good options, I would just look around and find which ever one you like the best or which ever one you can buy the cheapest depending on which one of those criteria is more important to you? The way I look at it is, so what if the lower you want is $30 more then some other option. You are going to use it to build a rifle worth anywhere from $700 to well over $2k so what's an extra $30 or whatever to get the one you really want?


Agree.  Spending more than 100 to 130 for a lower (depending on your state/transfer costs) is a WASTE.  High dollar lowers are simply fashion statements for the vain.
10/12/2007 7:29:06 PM EDT
[#34]
I used a Mega for my last build and all I can say is sweeeeet.  I sold a Double Star lower last week and now I looking for another Mega.  If I can't track one down in the next week or so I may give Sundevil or Noveske a try.
10/13/2007 3:41:46 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
is there another AWB on the front?


Of course there is, we just had the incident in Cleveland, so obviously we need to ban all assault rifles to make the kids safe.


ETA:
I have 2 Superior Arms lowers. Not the greatest finish, but they get the job done for around $90 each
10/13/2007 10:08:54 PM EDT
[#36]
For my first build I need a lower  with "multi" cal markings. I have a Ko-tonics 16" 6.8spc combat edition upper with a Young Mfg bolt carrier, and I'm looking at the Ameetec lowers.

Anyone have any experiences with the Ameteec? I would like a Mega but everyone has hoarded them, so thats not an option right now.

I know any 5.56 would do the job, but it would bug me to do a fresh build with a non matching upper caliber.

Any other Ideas for "Multi" cal marked lowers to go with my Ko-tonics upper ,I have marked off the POF because they are too pricey, and I'd rather put the extra money towards more ammo to shoothy.gif
10/13/2007 11:33:08 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
For my first build I need a lower  with "multi" cal markings. I have a Ko-tonics 16" 6.8spc combat edition upper with a Young Mfg bolt carrier, and I'm looking at the Ameetec lowers.

Anyone have any experiences with the Ameteec? I would like a Mega but everyone has hoarded them, so thats not an option right now.

I know any 5.56 would do the job, but it would bug me to do a fresh build with a non matching upper caliber.

Any other Ideas for "Multi" cal marked lowers to go with my Ko-tonics upper ,I have marked off the POF because they are too pricey, and I'd rather put the extra money towards more ammo to shoot


It's old enough to be in the archive, but go to the Az. Hometown forum and search for Ameteec.  A word of warning, get a comfy chair, popcorn and some good beer.  It's going be a long read.
10/14/2007 6:10:39 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I want to get a couple of lower recievers before they get "restricted" again. I want one for an AR-15 and the other for a CAR-15. I was looking for suggestions on the best ones to get. All I know is that DPMS and Bushmaster are good.

Also there isn't really a reason that a standard lower will not work with a collapsible stock is there?

Thanks,

Ron


I'd like to know more about this as well.

Would Noveske make the list?

What receivers have the safe/fire markings using "bullets" in white/red? I know POF has them but it appears no one has any in stock.

I'd appreciate any help.
Thanks
Tom


I have two just like you want.  They came from Spike's Tactical..  THey came to my FFL in a Stag box so I guess thats who actually makes them.  

They are also marked "Multi" BTW
10/14/2007 7:20:09 AM EDT
[#39]
I have been using the superior arms lowers with good luck. Will be placing an order for a couple more next week. I have a 20" A2 kit in the safe to build and another on the way.
10/14/2007 7:33:14 AM EDT
[#40]
I dont have acess to do a archive search, I believe I need to upgrade my account. did it boil down to positive or negative?

I like the plain look of the ameetec, and havent been able to find anything on the search function.
10/15/2007 11:00:40 AM EDT
[#41]
I am looking to use the CMMG or the Lauer Lower... I like the logos on them and it seems that that is really the only thing that matters. I was told that the finish on the CMMG isnt the mil-spec so it wont match very well with a quality upper. Also what is with the option on the Superior Lowers regarding the 2nd threaded hole to tune the trigger? Thanks
Brandon
10/15/2007 11:31:06 AM EDT
[#42]
Well i just looked on the CMMG website, their lower is mil-spec anodized then teflon coated so nevermind. I think for 120 I'm gonna go with their lower, anybody got anything to say about CMMG? Thanks
Brandon
10/15/2007 1:40:22 PM EDT
[#43]
CMMG is one of the best. I'll make an assumption that you'll be happy with your purchase. My CMMG 10.3 is pretty much all I use these days. It's my primary duty rig.
10/15/2007 3:24:00 PM EDT
[#44]
And, what is the consensus on the quality of Sabre Defense lower receivers?
10/15/2007 8:26:25 PM EDT
[#45]
the sabre defense lower I bought in the spring is the cleanest one i've handled.I only live 45 miles from the factory,so maybe mine was just "fresh"....compared to my bushmaster,the sabre was smoother machined,but neither has been anything but superlative.
10/16/2007 5:32:53 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
I dont have acess to do a archive search, I believe I need to upgrade my account. did it boil down to positive or negative?

I like the plain look of the ameetec, and havent been able to find anything on the search function.


It came down to plain thievery on ameetecs part. In a nutshell someone came up with an idea for an AR lower in .45acp that used cheap mags, sent it to ameetec to eval with a deal they would manufactor the lowers. Ameetec reniged on the deal, and converted his prototype reciever to a registered post 86 auto reciever so they wouldnt have to even send him his prototype back

I fucking hate thieves
10/16/2007 8:04:07 AM EDT
[#47]
Grab the popcorn kids.  Ameetec
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