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10/2/2007 1:36:35 PM EDT
I wanted to build my first SBR so I headed to the ATF site for the appropaite forms.  Needless to say I'm lost!  Could someone let me know what form numbers I would need?  

TX.
10/2/2007 1:43:34 PM EDT
[#1]
Form 1 if you're making it.

Are SBR's legal in your area?
10/2/2007 2:11:40 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Form 1 if you're making it.

Are SBR's legal in your area?


Also a certificate of compliance, if you are building as an individual.
10/2/2007 2:18:08 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Form 1 if you're making it.

Are SBR's legal in your area?


Also a certificate of compliance, if you are building as an individual.


And the fingerprint forms.
10/2/2007 4:51:13 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Form 1 if you're making it.

Are SBR's legal in your area?


Peek53,

Your profile show NY. SBR's are not allowed in NY.
10/3/2007 8:00:20 AM EDT
[#5]
CAR-AR-M16 -- I'm LE.  

I do plan on building the Ar myself.  

Thanks for the help guys.  I'm sure the forms are fun!!
10/3/2007 9:12:23 AM EDT
[#6]

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CAR-AR-M16 -- I'm LE.  

I do plan on building the Ar myself.  

Thanks for the help guys.  I'm sure the forms are fun!!


I wasn't aware that NY made exception's for LEO to build SBR's as an individual. I am sure your department could register/build (or just buy) an SBR and issue it you for your offical duties, but I do not see how being an LEO would allow you to do this. I know of no other state that allows this exemption.
10/3/2007 9:42:21 AM EDT
[#7]
the SBR must be registered as a dept. weapon.  
10/3/2007 9:50:06 AM EDT
[#8]

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the SBR must be registered as a dept. weapon.  


That makes more sense. Wouldn't it be easier to just buy a factory SBR? Since it is for the department there would be no transfer tax. It would transfer on a tax free form 5 www.atf.gov/forms/pdfs/f53205.pdf
10/3/2007 11:20:01 AM EDT
[#9]

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the SBR must be registered as a dept. weapon.  

It also must be owned by the department -- and if you leave, they get to keep it.

The form you want is a Form 1 (full name is Form 5320.1). Your department will need to submit it in duplicate; since it is an LE-owned-and-registered firearm, there is no need for fingerprints, photos or certificate of citizenship, and no $200 making tax is due.
10/3/2007 1:46:15 PM EDT
[#10]
Yes, unless the law changes when I retire (12yrs from now) I will most likely have to part w/ her.  By then Hillary and Bloomberg will feel like a BAD BAD BAD......dream.  Or if I move I can transfer it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I realize it dosent make a lot of sense to some on the board to build it if I might have to leave it behind.....kinda like why did the guy climb the mt.  Because it's there.  My only answer is -- Because I can.  Always kinda wanted 2.  

Funny thing is I really dont even like the 5.56 outa the short tube.  Please dont flame me here.  Just a personal note.  I really want to make the build and shoot the crap outa it.  Not going to using for patrol purposes.  
10/3/2007 1:51:57 PM EDT
[#11]
As a native New Yorker, I can understand that.

BTW, if when you retire you move to an NFA-friendly state, your department can (if they are willing to do so) transfer "your" SBR to you in your new state via a tax-free Form 5.
10/3/2007 3:24:37 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted: My only answer is -- Because I can.


When I die they need to put that on my grave, I live by that phrase and it drives some people crazy.
10/5/2007 6:47:53 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:


Funny thing is I really dont even like the 5.56 outa the short tube.  Please dont flame me here.  Just a personal note.  I really want to make the build and shoot the crap outa it.  Not going to using for patrol purposes.  


You are correct. 5.56 is not a great cartridge out of a short barrel. But you can use 9mm/40/45 or even (gulp) .30 carbine, as they all develop enough velocity out of a short barrel to be effective within their ballistic range.
10/10/2007 7:40:43 PM EDT
[#14]
We get lots of NY retirees here in SC. We would love to have you and your SBR in the no freeze zone
10/11/2007 11:42:31 AM EDT
[#15]
My Det. Sgt. retired to your state in late 06.  Loves it there.  
10/14/2007 8:52:18 PM EDT
[#16]
the lower will need to be marked
10/28/2007 3:26:08 AM EDT
[#17]
If you live in a "free" state do you need to do all these forms, also is ohio a free state ive through most of the gun laws and i wont lie after about 2mins my head starts ringing so any help would be great

Also if theres someone that has gone through all the drama of building and registering a SBR if you could speak up and give your account i bet that would help alot of us bone heads out

THANKS
10/28/2007 5:07:03 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
If you live in a "free" state do you need to do all these forms, also is ohio a free state ive through most of the gun laws and i wont lie after about 2mins my head starts ringing so any help would be great

Also if theres someone that has gone through all the drama of building and registering a SBR if you could speak up and give your account i bet that would help alot of us bone heads out

THANKS


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