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Posted: 8/24/2007 9:10:08 AM EDT
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I am more familiar with carbine length rifles so I need some thoughts, opinions. I was noticing after cleaning the upper for the first time that the bore seemed much tighter than other 5.56 bores. I noticed this running a patch down the bore. The main thing I noticed when I first shot this rifle was it seemed to have much more kick and felt recoil. Accuracy was not good with premium ammo but it was very accurate shooting Wolf with less felt recoil. Shooting the Black Hills 55 grain FMJ (factory reloads) the gun felt like a .300 Win mag. Was getting an uncontrollable 6 inch muzzle flip. Pretty freaky! The rifle was better shooting the slower velocity Wolf. At some point I asked myself is this thing safe to shoot? It was cleaned thoroughly and I find nothing visually wrong. Are mid lenght rifles just stouter shooting than carbines? Or do I have a problem? THX |
| Well I'm no expert, but I've always heard that mid lengths are supposed to shoot smoother, and possibly with less recoil than carbine lengths. What length barrel is it, and what brand? Hopefully someone with more experience than me will come along and help, but it sounds like something isn't right. |
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It's a Del-Ton 16 in mid length. I just bought 2 uppers, one is a chrome carbine 16 in (TASC) RRA and the Del-Ton. The RRA shoots nice. It's a comfortable gun. It is a tack driver shooting Black hills ammo. The wolf not so good, but it cycles well and is fun to shoot. In comparing the bores on the two barrels the RRA bore seems smoother like the chrome is thinner and has a better slippier finish. It's feels silky smooth pushing a patch down it. The Del-Ton is rougher and tighter. The chrome plating seems thicker almost overdone. Now with the Del-Ton the mid-length is shooting some large groups with fliers when shooting the Black Hills but what's weird is it shoots very respectable groups shooting the Wolf. It's almost the exact opposite as the RRA. It's hard to complain about a rifle that shoots the cheap Wolf well and I have no problems with the rifle feeding or extracting, but that sucker really kicks. After about 100 rounds I'm done for the day. The RRA I could shoot all day long. I changed the Del-Ton over to a rifle buttstock hoping that would help but it's the same and I feel the buffer bottom out on every shot. It's really different. Now if I didn't have anything to compare it to I might think that's the way an AR is. It kicks more than my 7.62X39 upper. |
Yes, that could be the problem. I would think it has to be either that, or excessive pressure from the tight bore. I'm probably going to retire this rifle. I'm not the type to sell a gun if I think it's got problems. Maybe rebarrel it sometime down the road when I gain some more AR savvy............ |
Have it checked out by a qualified gunsmith. If it was a problem from del ton I'm sure they would make it right. |
| Yes Del-Ton is great, they will make it right. I'm not really upset with them. Haven't bothered to contact them about it. I work in manufacturing and I know a defect slips through now and then. Mainly wanted to start this thread to get an idea if it was in the range of acceptability or if any one else had similar shooting chrome guns. |
| Just to update. Decided to take it out Sunday and really evaluate it. Sportsmans Warehouse just got a big shipment of .223 in so grabbed a variety of ammo and took it out shooting. I ran some American Eagle FMJBT through it and it was fine. Hardly kicked at all. Surprised the hell out of me. Shot some Wolf FMJ instead of the HP I had been shooting same thing. So all is well that ends well. |
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