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1/2/2007 8:46:22 AM EDT
I finally have my first ar... RRA lower from my dealer for $141 out the door... Double Star parts kit from J&T $475 & some change delivered... $616 for a complete HBAR... Not bad...But... here is the thing...THE TRIGGER SUCKS... Do all ARs have a long gritty take up before release? To try & fix it I did some of the things in the 15 min. trigger job... I put a slight bend in the trigger spring arms & used polishing compound as described... I didn't want to cut the hammer sping for fear of too lite hammer strikes & the pull itself is not too bad.. feels like maybe 4.5 to 5 lb... The compound helped a little I still feel the three or 4 spots where it sticks in the stake up but not as bad... My Saiga build has a way better pull with the G2 trigger I put in it... Should I Maybe polish again with compound and a felt dremal wheel this time?
1/2/2007 8:57:11 AM EDT
[#1]
I would (assuming the LPK came from DoubleStar/J&T) ask Jesse in the DSC/J&T Industry forum here:
www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=2&f=40

He's very nice, and it's his company.  He'll get it fixed or tell you how to do it yourself, I'm sure.
1/2/2007 9:47:26 AM EDT
[#2]
If you really want a better trigger look at the RRA 2-stage, a lot of trigger for not too much money.
1/2/2007 10:07:39 AM EDT
[#3]
when I put mine together, i thought the same thing.then I realized that for what I wanted it for,sweaty hands, heart racing, adrenaline pumping,did I really want a crisp,light trigger? no, I didn't...I wanted a trigger I could feel under stress if need be.that and I didn't have 200 bucks for a good trigger!
1/2/2007 10:21:41 AM EDT
[#4]
My trigger isn't horrible, but I would like it a bit lighter and smoother. I think I'm going to give this a shot:

JP Springs

I'm hoping that between those and polishing I'll have something a bit better.
1/2/2007 10:37:31 AM EDT
[#5]
I went ahead & used the felt wheel & buffing compound... Polished the trigger contacting surface as mirror as I could... No more grittiness... The take up goes straight to the breaking point with stacking until it breaks clean at what I guess as 4.5 to 5 lb... I can live with it now... I just couldn't stand the gritty take up... you never knew when you were at the breaking point
1/2/2007 2:46:26 PM EDT
[#6]
I sent my trigger group to a guy on the site who goes by the handle Whatnow.  My standard trigger feels better than my RRA national match trigger.  No creep, and very clean break, I recommend having this done by Bill.  Link
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=125&t=344868
1/3/2007 2:23:56 PM EDT
[#7]
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Quoted:
My trigger isn't horrible, but I would like it a bit lighter and smoother. I think I'm going to give this a shot:

JP Springs

I'm hoping that between those and polishing I'll have something a bit better.


Been thinking of going this route myself.  If you do, let us know how it turns out!

Brian
1/20/2007 4:02:25 PM EDT
[#8]
I did the 15 minute trigger job today.  Mine is a LAR Grizzly lower with the J&T A3 20"HBar upper/kit.  My trigger sucked before as well.  Very gritty and 7.5lb pull.  Well the 15 minute trigger job made a world of difference.  I went a little further on polishing the engagement surfaces as I did stone them.  No more grit in the pull.  The pull seemed awfull light though and it measured under 2.5lb.  Took it to the range to check it out and "no joy".  Light hammer strikes with no ignition.  Just checked it again, DUH!!!!!!  Hammer spring in backwards.  Corrected the problem and now it's 4.5lb and very smooth.  Lesson learned:  Don't go to the range in 20 degree weather with 30mph gusts until your sure you've got it put back together correctly.  Well I guess I did get some practice in setting up and breaking down my gear in extreme elements, LOL.

Brett
1/20/2007 6:31:26 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
If you really want a better trigger look at the RRA 2-stage, a lot of trigger for not too much money.


+1

I got one, and it ROCKS.
1/21/2007 7:31:32 PM EDT
[#10]
ok, got back to the range today with the hammer spring in correctly.  What a world of difference from the stock trigger.  Seemed like a completely different rifle.  Made doubletaps very easy.  I love it, 15 minutes and no cost.  Can't beat that with a stick.

Brett
1/22/2007 12:31:17 AM EDT
[#11]
I've tried thr RRA as well as the JARD triggers and they are both phenomenal, but I couldnt afford these triggers to outfit 4 AR's. So I tried the 15 minute trigger job thats popular here and that modification works very well too, but I've changed one thing about it. I stopped trimming the trigger spring length on one leg. I still polish the engagement surfaces with a dremmel +felt wheel+polishing compound, and then I just drop one leg of the hammer spring under the trigger pin to rest on the bottom of the fire control well. Nice light trigger, with no grit and no light primer strikes. Easy to do and no parts modifications.
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