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Posted: 3/19/2006 12:05:05 AM EDT
What is the cheapest you could build a complete AR15 for? Ugle or not ugle, I dont care just what would be the cheapest 600 bucks?
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 12:24:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2006 12:25:05 AM EDT by Mr45auto]
I've got $385 invested in a SP1 ish rifle. All Colt upper and DPMS lower. It takes a good bit of patience and a close eye on the used parts in the EE. Some of it was trade items. I spotted good deals on items I knew I could use as trade stock and bought them right and traded for the parts I wanted.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 12:32:55 AM EDT
Without defining the quality variable it's not possible to answer your question without making assumptions that may differ from your own.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 12:42:34 AM EDT
umm, what I meant what is all the parts you need like do you only need a ar15 upper and lower than bam your done or do you need other parts, I just want to know the lowest you could build a basic ar15 for with at least a 16 inch barrel. Im a newb at ar15s right now....
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 1:24:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Comrade_Charli:
umm, what I meant what is all the parts you need like do you only need a ar15 upper and lower than bam your done or do you need other parts, I just want to know the lowest you could build a basic ar15 for with at least a 16 inch barrel. Im a newb at ar15s right now....



My route: Stripped lower, lower parts kit, A1 buttstock with tube buffer and spring, barrel, handguards, upper, bolt carrier group/charging handle. I found it much easier to get it one little part at a time than buying a whole upper and lower. You can find some seriously cheap parts if you put it together yourself.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 1:53:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2006 1:54:38 AM EDT by 1IV]
So far the A2 I am building has run me:

Stock buffer spring and tube 35$
BM A2 Upper (needed a dust cover and a FA assy 21$) 65+21 =86$
Bolt and charging handle (Newish) 100$
Lower parts kit DPMS 50$
Lower Superior arms 85$
Rifle Hand guards colt and delta ring 20$
Barrel 1/9 w fsb and gas tube 90$ 20in (500-100rdc)

All off the EE over 30 days.

Total $446

I have yet to assemble it.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 11:27:53 AM EDT
what is better a 1:7 or a 1:9 rifling?
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 11:44:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Comrade_Charli:
what is better a 1:7 or a 1:9 rifling?



The biggest advantage of 1:7 is it is capable of stabilizing the newer heavy 75gr, 77,gr, 80 gr self defense loads.



Link Posted: 3/19/2006 12:43:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 12:47:03 PM EDT
Is this a good deal, I think comes with the parts for the upper it says but no barrel becuase its a stripped upper, I want a A3 but ill have to go with a A2

http://www.commandsurplus.com/cs/dpms-upper-receiver-unassembled-ar15-a2-matte-p-59904.html?SKU=UR-01-A2B
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 1:12:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 1:13:32 PM EDT
have you checked the EE there are lots of good deals to be had in there
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 2:03:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2006 2:03:34 PM EDT by ALPHAGHOST]
$160: complete A1 16in LW CL upper, pretty sure it was part colt--used (EE)
$105: stripped MEGA lower w/ FFL fees
$52: DPMS LPK (industry forum)
$39: RRA CAR stock (EE)
Total: $356
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 2:31:31 PM EDT
DPMS looks good but who makes the best lowers and uppers in yalls opinions?

Ill check out the "EE" sometime but im just doint research and junk right now
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 2:47:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 5:38:24 PM EDT
I will have less than $580 in my A2 build. Assuming that the lower and it's guts will cost me ~$200. This is my first build too. I could have went cheaper, but I wanted better quality parts that were new or like new.

My goal was to define the general build, be very selective on the parts where it counted, waiting until I had a $25 order to get free shipping from DPMS, and being patient lurking at EE and Gunbrokers. It may not be the cheepest build, but it is definately a lot of bang for the buck. It will look new and I am sure, function like new.

A2 upper with sight assembly like (like new)
New small parts for the upper
100% complete barrel assembly, Delta ring to FH, with less than 60 rounds through it (like new)
New A2 stock
New complete bolt assembly and charging handle
New lower and guts.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 6:26:11 PM EDT
I would like to pay around 500, a new upper and lower with bolt junk would cost 400 then stock+barrel would be around 600+ im guessing... but im going to build this over time so it will be ok

I guess I was a little misleading when I said cheapest way possible, i wanted to know the cheapest possible way with new stuff, but I kinda got it now(I think), some used stuff will be fine too but id like a new barrel mainly
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 6:28:45 PM EDT
What are the parts that have to be shipped to a FFL?
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 6:29:35 PM EDT
Just under $400 with a m16A1 clone. That includes all shipping.

Looks rough...but shoots great.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 6:30:15 PM EDT
a stripped AR lower, and a kit from JTD or del-ton if you dont want to wait and see in the EE....
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 6:38:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Comrade_Charli:
What are the parts that have to be shipped to a FFL?



only the stripped lower
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 7:24:56 PM EDT
Stripped lower $95 + $5 tax at my local friendly dealer (Got 2, a matched pair)
Complete A2 upper with bolt and handle (16 inch, chromed, threaded, bayo lug, etc NO-Ban) $470 shipped from the internet (found them here, ordered via website)
Lower parts $60 shipped
6 pos buttstock $69 shipped
30 rd magazine $30 at local gun show (+ 2 more at $18 over the net)

Total $729 for all NEW parts, upper and lower RRA.

I could have saved $12 on the mag, $60 for non chromed barrel (A2 or flattop), and $20 for a conventional stock, so it could have cost me $637, again for a NEW rifle.

I have yet to build it, I am waiting on the 9mm upper, mag block and hammer to build them both at the same time, one .223 and one 9mm. Got 500 rounds of each, and I am gonna have some priceless fun down at the range.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 8:13:26 PM EDT
Cheapest I've built from new parts was $570. On a $150. lower receiver (going rate in NY). I have another AR that I built on an old Century receiver for $155., using my old parts left over from other guns. I've just started checking the EE and have seen some good deals
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 5:00:31 PM EDT
Say you bought a lower from EE how would you get that a FFL transfer too, im guessing
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 11:40:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Comrade_Charli:
Say you bought a lower from EE how would you get that a FFL transfer too, im guessing



are you asking how does a FFL transfer work, in general?
if so:
--get/find/call you local firearm dealers/FFLers and ask em if they do FFL transfers and how much they charge PER firearm--prices can go from $10-10% the price of the firearm (like one of my FFLs)
--when you find a local FFL dealer you wish to deal with, you need to get a signed copy of his FFL (some dealer will send it out for you, others will let you send it out)
--mail it to seller of the firearm (along w/ payment--just dont forget to pay!); upon verifying the FFL and getting funds, the seller ships the firearm to your FFL dealer; you can also fax the copy, but most will only accept a physical, blue/red/etc ink signed FFL copy
--the FFL dealer will recieve the firearm that you paid for and "transfer" it to you by doing the background checks, paperwork, etc, and charge you the fee
tips:
-FFLs can be verified online though the ATF (i think), you just need the licence #
-maintain contact w/ both the FFL dealer and the seller
-keep your FFL dealer up to date and try to give him a expect from and date for firearm arrival
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 12:17:19 AM EDT
Get a stripped Cavarms lower from the EE with parts kit included. $145 add the buffer and spring $15

http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=554

Top it with an inexpensive upper.

The Like new USGI M16a1 Surplus uppers that float around for about $285 are a perfect complement.

Add a brand new Bolt/Bolt Carrier for about $100 And you have a like new, light weight, accurate, reliable weapon.

Trust me, you will like it.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 11:20:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Comrade_Charli:
What is the cheapest you could build a complete AR15 for? Ugle or not ugle, I dont care just what would be the cheapest 600 bucks?



Sarco, Inc has complete A1 kits minus the lower for $425 add a lower for about $110 equals $535. The A1 has the 1/12 barrel, and three prong flash suppresser. That’s the cheapest but I would spend a little more and get a barrel with a 1/9 twist and chrome lined.
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