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Posted: 5/28/2004 5:32:27 PM EDT
anyone else get one of these?
WTF, justin |
I got one, too. The first thing ebay deemed "un politically correct" was WW2 German militaria. Seems it offended the liberals in California and they put some very unreasonable restrictions on selling and buying. Now with the AW ban on ebay, I'd just shift everything over to gunbroker.com. It looks amazingly like ebay, which I'm sure sticks in their craw...
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I think Ebay has just extremely complicated matters for themselves by entering into the twilight zone of gun legislation. According to California and Federal law an ASSAULT RIFLE is defined as a "semiautomatic, center-fire weapon". So, does this mean that it is OK to still sell M16 parts on Ebay, but it is not OK to sell AR-15 parts? An M16 is a MACHINEGUN, not an "Assault Rifle". They didn't mention anything about Machinegun parts in that e-mail, so I guess AK-47, M-16, Sten, MG-42, 1919A4 parts and accessories are still fair game. Stupidity if you ask me. |
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Yeah Ebay really sucks with their pinko, liberal, faggot rules. You could also try listing your item as "SKS sporter hunting rifle folding stock", etc. Who says you can't pay for guns on PayPal? Just don't list the item paid for as anything that is easily associated with guns. You can't list assault weapon parts or Nazi crap, but you can list all of the pro-Al Quaeda kill Americans junk you won't. Ebay definetly has their priorties straight.  When can when let Kalifornia go back to Mexico? Independence wouldn't be the answer for those clowns in their dream world. Being under Mexican rule would make them wake up. |
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Heres an idea for getting around it for a little while at least Auction # 843950598847 For sale one (1) {insert your choice of item} reserve price $12.00 Buy it now $12.00 with your purchase you will also receive one(1) preban #30 AR15 magazine free of charge as a gift from me to you as winner of my auction (or what ever banned item of you wish to sell, adjust buy price accordingly) I actually see this happening  
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Because gunbroker charges damn near retail for everything eBay is cheaper, Ive bought probably 30 mags there for an avg of 12 bucks a pop including ship. All were 90% or better Ive bought reloading equipt there for half price or better, dies mostly, bought collectable Case brand knives there for 20 cents on the dollar, Morgan silver dollars for half their value, just to name a few reasons. Ive saved a butt load of money on eBay and made money on selling there |
I just perused e-turd (ass s) and it doesn't look too much different. Maybe they haven't caught up on auction cancellations yet, but there are plenty of preban uppers, barrels, mags, etc. still out there. I still don't know what parts would be within their guidlines anyway. As an example, in PRK (and elsewhere I guess), if you have a single shot or FAB10 lower, you can have some evil features (bayo lug, FH, etc.) in spite of the federal law, so a barrel with a bayo lug and FH would be legal in PRK and all other states should you choose to go the single shot lower/FAB10 route. So since this barrel configuration could be legally mounted in some applicatons and illegal in others, is it considered an "assault weapon part" or not?? Can they cancel an auction for an item that falls in this category?? I won't use them for stuff like this unless they change their stance on issues like this. Didn't use them for much else, anyway. I got some good deals from ebay, but it wasn't like some type of clearance flea market for me, so I don't feel any big loss. I got as many good deals here on the EE as I did on e-turd (ass s). Plus I never got screwed by an ARFCOM member (yet) and I got screwed numerous times by people on e-turd (asss). e-turd's (asss) complaint policy is long, tedious and somewhat ineffective if a seller drops off of the face of the earth - I know from experience.Wish I had alot of: Free time Money Law degree or lawyer friends with the two resources above I would toy with them and challenge their policy every chance I had. Seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen with all the conficting laws and loopholes that exist in their policy. Even if I didn't win a single case, it would be fun just to burn up their money in court. Bottom line - no loss for me. |
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I sent e-bay this letter the day I received their e-mail. No response. I am completely confused by these rules. An assault weapon as defined by GCA 94 (which sunsets in September) is any gun with "three" evil components. Any one or two "evil" components does not define it as an assault weapon. If you are setting your standards by some state law that doesn't apply to the rest of the country (or the world), you need to provide more details. I don't know California law, nor care to. Therefore a barrel can either be fitted to a legally defined "assault" weapon can also be fitted to a legally defined "non-assault" weapon. So when I sell a barrel that has a dual purpose, what definition do I go by? What about a rifle scope that can be mounted on a "assault" weapon. Do I assume I cannot sell that either? Or is it single purpose items you are mentioning - like a flash suppressor? And is a pre-ban flash suppressor (like one for a rifle manufactured in 1940) an "assault" weapon related part? The 1940 rifle is not legally as "assault" weapon, even in California. On the surface, it appears your policy was not written by someone who understands the legalities and nuances of firearms. Can I sell a cleaning rod that can be used in an "assault" rifle? I don't even know now. Please provide additional clarification to your policy, as it is totally unworkable. |
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I won with "buy it now" a complete colt buttstock assembly with buffer,spring,tube,screws,etc.... for $35 shipped.It had just been posted.I bid on it,paid the seller and contacted him to seal the deal.About 20 minutes later i got an email from ebay that the auction was cancelled.Oh well,already made the deal and parts are on the way.....
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I found out the hard way about this about a year ago. The point at which ebay cancels your auction, they also cancel your buyer protection. So if the seller is an asshat and knows this fact, you may be in a little trouble. My seller took me for $240 on an upper with a few preban mags. ebay cancelled the auction with no real explanation as to why AFTER I had won the auction and sent payment. Seller said they shipped the upper, but I never received it. Guess what - I'm ass out. 
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Ebay prob. did that to be touchy feely. The "goody" thing to do...... aka its the way it is because we say it's that way.... |
I would contest the charge on your Credit Card if they cancelled the auction. If they're gonna screw with you, screw back with them......... |
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eBay has gone down hill and been at the bottom of the hill for awhile now. IMHO, The eBay market has dried up. Only the sellers that can devote all their time posting make money. I'm tired of wasting my time on nice eBay ads and not selling stuff that used to sell well. |
What buyer protection??? I got ripped off by a guy named Steve Lindsey from Missippi on a DPMS flattop upper for $351.00. Ebay told me there was nothing they could do. I filed mail fraud charges against him with the Postal Service and they couldn't do anything, either. Small claims court required me to hire a lawyer and travel to Mississippi for court. If Steve Lindsey is a member of this forum...I'LL FIND YOU SOME DAY! |
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I had a Colt marked bolt group and a complete trigger set listed on Ebay when June 8 rolled around. Never got any notice from Ebay about the change and 2 days later when I checked the auction to see how it was going it didn't exist anymore! It took Ebay another day or so to bother sending me an email telling me that my auction had been cancelled. The least that they should have done is send me an email at the same time or prior to cancelling my auction. I've got it listed on GunBroker now, but there are so many of them there that it may take awhile to sell. Robert |
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