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Posted: 10/10/2003 8:35:44 PM EDT
Does anyone know a if there is a company selling an AR15 A1 kit??
I am interested in building a similar AR as the M16A1 used in the 60's & 70's, with an A1 upper, forward assist, triangle handguards, A1 handguard slip ring, and original type barrel (not H-bar).
I am hesitant to buy a piece here and there, because then i will have to worry about headspacing, piviot pin hole size, etc... not to mention it probably would cost alot more if i pieced it togather.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.

Link Posted: 10/11/2003 7:04:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/11/2003 7:06:18 AM EDT by shamayim]
If you want an A1 clone, piece by piece is the only option you have. There are some assembled barrel/reciever assys out there. CDNN is currently selling some apparent overrun Colt stuff from the A1 series; barrelled uppers, bolt/carrier assemblies, and stock assys, and that is probably the easiest way to go. If you do go that route, and are using a post ban lower, you'll need to grind off about 1/4 inch of the underside shoulder on the carrier, to make it a semi auto only carrier, and you'll need to replace the flash suppressor with a permanently mounted muzzle brake, but any original type stuff you buy will need the permanent muzzle brake. [url]www.cdnninvestments.com[/url] Then click on "Parts", then "Colt"
Link Posted: 10/11/2003 7:49:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/11/2003 7:55:45 AM EDT by _DR]
Originally Posted By shamayim: If you want an A1 clone, piece by piece is the only option you have.
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Not so! Fulton Armory sells the complete M16A1 forgery, complete with "faux" A1 canopener flashhider and slickside upper as an option. They also sell the complete M16A1 (forgery-clone) barreled upper. As an interesting side note, they use new surplus chrome plated M16A1 USGI barrels on these, with authentic stamped markings, very nice. I have been eyeballing them a lot since my first black rifle ever was the M16A1 I was issued back in BCT at Fort Leonard Wood in 1982, back when Col. Sanders was still a private. Although it was a well worn, rattly relic even at the time, I still think of it with fondness. I think Fulton does the best job of capturing the spirit of the A1 in a civilian, post-ban rifle. The only thing better would be a pre-ban Hartford Horsie SP1, but they can be very pricey for an NIB example. they are at [url]www.fultonarmory.com[/url], under legacy AR15s.
Link Posted: 10/11/2003 2:21:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/11/2003 2:29:43 PM EDT by shamayim]
$500 for an upper assy? Not in my house! Not when I was able to buy a brand new M16 barrel for $105 with every part except the gas tube, an original Air Force type upper for $125, and the bolt, carrier and cocking tee for $100; and all parts were original Colt production. For $170 difference in price, I'll build it myself, thank you, and have 2/3ds of the bucks for the bottom end still in my pocket[:D] Now if they'd bring out a replica of the original M16 A1 Lower reciever, I'd pay a premium for that; but buy aftermarket replica stuf when you can get genuine Colt for the same or less?? Nah[:D]
Link Posted: 10/11/2003 2:57:13 PM EDT
Yeah they are a bit pricey, but for someone that has more money than time, they are a quality product. They make some nice M1s and M1As as well. But yes, too much for my pocketbook. I build from parts as well.
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 5:00:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/16/2003 5:01:39 PM EDT by Son of Liberty]
Originally Posted By shamayim: $500 for an upper assy? Not in my house!
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Agreed! Anyone know of any company that sells the original slab side A1 uppers but with the small forward hole for pushpin? SoL
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 5:08:59 PM EDT
Never mind... I found them. Fulton has both the small hole and large hole slabside A1 uppers for $149. [img]http://www.fulton-armory.com/M16Upper-350_50.jpg[/img] SoL
Link Posted: 10/17/2003 6:14:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Son of Liberty: Never mind... I found them. Fulton has both the small hole and large hole slabside A1 uppers for $149. [url]http://www.fulton-armory.com/M16Upper-350_50.jpg[/url] SoL
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You might also want to check w/my favorite parts guy, L.D. Mcpherson at [url]usgunparts.com[/url]. Got a used, but appearing new, original Colt M16 upper from him recently, for $125, and it came w/ sights and dust cover. Air Force surp I guess[:D]
Link Posted: 10/17/2003 11:33:03 PM EDT
thanks for your help!
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