HarryD, the Lib II rails are the exact height of the flat top...it's whatever upper Model 1 uses, don't know the brand.
If you've already got the barrel off, etc., then these go on just like a regular float tube...its got it's own barrel nut and lock washer. Very easy installation. This is a very solid unit in terms of the metal thickness...much heavier than my Hogue tube, fwiw. I would certainly recommend a vertical grip if you're gonna get this forend...even with the rail style covers installed, it will feel huge when you grip it.
After I got this installed, I kicked myself in the ass for NOT getting the ARMS #38 extended...I had gotten the Std. model, not knowing I would get this fore end. Oh, well, live and learn hehehe. I'd like to have my scope a little more forward...very long (5") eye relief on the Aetec scope I have on this particular rifle.
Here's a pic...please excuse the cheesy mount for the Surelight...too poor to get an ARMS right now lol:
[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/188491/libII.jpg[/img]