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Posted: 5/19/2014 5:24:37 PM EDT
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im at work at a Bank so I cannot be on the internet much to research. Im sure this product has been discussed many times so I apologize.
Just wondering how these hold up to recoil and if they are a quality weapon light? Most of the ones I see say they are 125/30 lumens with high and low modes. Do they make a model that is just a simple "high" all the time when you press the button? Do they make just a momentary model and or just a constant model? thanks in advance. |
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Mine has been 100%, no battery killing issues. Not sure why only some have the issues. It sounds like the fancy tailcaps have electronics that run all the time. If you just have a regular flashlight, then there's no other circuitry other than for the actual LEDs. So when it's off, it's actually off. |
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Quoted: It sounds like the fancy tailcaps have electronics that run all the time. If you just have a regular flashlight, then there's no other circuitry other than for the actual LEDs. So when it's off, it's actually off. Quoted: Quoted: Mine has been 100%, no battery killing issues. Not sure why only some have the issues. It sounds like the fancy tailcaps have electronics that run all the time. If you just have a regular flashlight, then there's no other circuitry other than for the actual LEDs. So when it's off, it's actually off. Something like this. Mine had issues with battery drain, but if it did not then I would love the light.
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I have the Haley Strategic Partners 200 lumen momentary only version and LOVE it. Lightweight, good battery life, and comfortable. I got the momentary only version because HSP made it a little brighter without being TOO bright, and i didn't like the idea of using one button a certain way for high, low, and strobe. When it comes to lights i take the KISS method and this works great for me. Mines mounted using the HSP 45 degree thorn tail offset mount.
ETA: I've had no issues with battery drain on mine. Maybe because its momentary only?  </a>" />
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They are supposed to have a dual-spectrum version of that as well. REEEEEAAAALLY want to see how that works out. Quoted:
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It's taking forever for them to sell the damn thing, but they've made a 500 lumen model. They are supposed to have a dual-spectrum version of that as well. REEEEEAAAALLY want to see how that works out. I'm paying close attention to that as well. That could be awesome to use with a PVS-22. 
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I have three of the white light (200 lumen) and IR (75 mw) and have had no issue with any of them.
Damn simple no-futz interface makes it almost impossible to be in the wrong spectrum. The lo/hi of the white light is good. I do have 500 lumen and above flashlights but the one A123 battery at 200 lumen is a good match. As was mentioned earlier they're due to come out with a two battery 500 lumen light sometime and I'll likely buy one of those too. I like the one simple button with a safety cover. I like the ability remove the light from the rifle with one easy-to-use knob. I like the light-weight. Good value as the light is lots of bang for the buck. I have dropped one from about 6 feet sliding a rifle down a rock face and the light worked just fine afterwards (as did the ACOG LED that skidded too). |
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Innovative and sleek design. Overall I'm not too impressed with run time and performance vs the competition.
The WML has a .2 hour longer run time than the Surefire M300B. While 2 cell vs 1, I'd rather pickup a tlr-1s for the same money or less. |
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Quoted: I have three of the white light (200 lumen) and IR (75 mw) and have had no issue with any of them. Damn simple no-futz interface makes it almost impossible to be in the wrong spectrum. The lo/hi of the white light is good. I do have 500 lumen and above flashlights but the one A123 battery at 200 lumen is a good match. As was mentioned earlier they're due to come out with a two battery 500 lumen light sometime and I'll likely buy one of those too. I like the one simple button with a safety cover. I like the ability remove the light from the rifle with one easy-to-use knob. I like the light-weight. Good value as the light is lots of bang for the buck. I have dropped one from about 6 feet sliding a rifle down a rock face and the light worked just fine afterwards (as did the ACOG LED that skidded too). |
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It's taking forever for them to sell the damn thing, but they've made a 500 lumen model. They are supposed to have a dual-spectrum version of that as well. REEEEEAAAALLY want to see how that works out. I'm paying close attention to that as well. That could be awesome to use with a PVS-22. I know I was not impressed with their 200 Lumen version- either as a white light or the IR. Neither was very impressive in terms of throw etc....Maybe the 500 will be the ticket.... |
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I know I was not impressed with their 200 Lumen version- either as a white light or the IR. Neither was very impressive in terms of throw etc....Maybe the 500 will be the ticket.... Quoted:
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It's taking forever for them to sell the damn thing, but they've made a 500 lumen model. They are supposed to have a dual-spectrum version of that as well. REEEEEAAAALLY want to see how that works out. I'm paying close attention to that as well. That could be awesome to use with a PVS-22. I know I was not impressed with their 200 Lumen version- either as a white light or the IR. Neither was very impressive in terms of throw etc....Maybe the 500 will be the ticket.... Here's my review of the 500 lumen WMLx. I dig it..... 
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It's taking forever for them to sell the damn thing, but they've made a 500 lumen model. They are supposed to have a dual-spectrum version of that as well. REEEEEAAAALLY want to see how that works out. I'm paying close attention to that as well. That could be awesome to use with a PVS-22. I know I was not impressed with their 200 Lumen version- either as a white light or the IR. Neither was very impressive in terms of throw etc....Maybe the 500 will be the ticket.... Here's my review of the 500 lumen WMLx. I dig it.....  http://youtu.be/3flhhKPWmV8No IR Mode? That was one of the primary motivators to me, having ONE light on my gun that had TWO functions, one less thing hanging off the gun. |
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I really liked mine until the battery drained after a week of no use and inforce told me to pound sand Reports like these are what's stopping me from buying an Inforce light. I really like the light weight and design of the WMLs but I have no interest in a light that will drain itself unless I unscrew the lens. Do all of the Inforce lights do this or are the ones that are doing it malfunctioning? It's hard to believe a company would put out a light that drains batteries when it's not being used... |
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Reports like these are what's stopping me from buying an Inforce light. I really like the light weight and design of the WMLs but I have no interest in a light that will drain itself unless I unscrew the lens. Do all of the Inforce lights do this or are the ones that are doing it malfunctioning? It's hard to believe a company would put out a light that drains batteries when it's not being used... Quoted:
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I really liked mine until the battery drained after a week of no use and inforce told me to pound sand Reports like these are what's stopping me from buying an Inforce light. I really like the light weight and design of the WMLs but I have no interest in a light that will drain itself unless I unscrew the lens. Do all of the Inforce lights do this or are the ones that are doing it malfunctioning? It's hard to believe a company would put out a light that drains batteries when it's not being used... From this thread, and the other that I think I linked in this one, I'm gathering if you have a fancy tailswitch, the electronics in the switch are always on and kill the battery. If you have a mechanical tailswitch, there's no electronics. They've got a neat light, but their customer service was lacking when I was in Iraq 3 years ago, and it doesn't sound as if it's improved. |
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Reports like these are what's stopping me from buying an Inforce light. I really like the light weight and design of the WMLs but I have no interest in a light that will drain itself unless I unscrew the lens. Do all of the Inforce lights do this or are the ones that are doing it malfunctioning? It's hard to believe a company would put out a light that drains batteries when it's not being used... Quoted:
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I really liked mine until the battery drained after a week of no use and inforce told me to pound sand Reports like these are what's stopping me from buying an Inforce light. I really like the light weight and design of the WMLs but I have no interest in a light that will drain itself unless I unscrew the lens. Do all of the Inforce lights do this or are the ones that are doing it malfunctioning? It's hard to believe a company would put out a light that drains batteries when it's not being used... The momentary only models all seem to be fine and about 1/3 of the multi mode models have the drain issue. Inforce told me in an email that the drain is a result of switch used and to just unscrew it when not in use. They ignored me when I asked for a refund. I would go with a Streamlight or a surefire before Inforce. For $150 you can get a m952v that has a bright IR function and is backed by Surefire's great CS. |
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I have a few of the WML's. No issues. I do know that we got one with a switch problem and it was sent back. In our return, customer service was great and turn around time was only a few days. Communication was constant with the rep and no issues.
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The momentary only models all seem to be fine and about 1/3 of the multi mode models have the drain issue. Inforce told me in an email that the drain is a result of switch used and to just unscrew it when not in use. They ignored me when I asked for a refund. I would go with a Streamlight or a surefire before Inforce. For $150 you can get a m952v that has a bright IR function and is backed by Surefire's great CS. Quoted:
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I really liked mine until the battery drained after a week of no use and inforce told me to pound sand Reports like these are what's stopping me from buying an Inforce light. I really like the light weight and design of the WMLs but I have no interest in a light that will drain itself unless I unscrew the lens. Do all of the Inforce lights do this or are the ones that are doing it malfunctioning? It's hard to believe a company would put out a light that drains batteries when it's not being used... The momentary only models all seem to be fine and about 1/3 of the multi mode models have the drain issue. Inforce told me in an email that the drain is a result of switch used and to just unscrew it when not in use. They ignored me when I asked for a refund. I would go with a Streamlight or a surefire before Inforce. For $150 you can get a m952v that has a bright IR function and is backed by Surefire's great CS. |
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Quoted: I have a few of the WML's. No issues. I do know that we got one with a switch problem and it was sent back. In our return, customer service was great and turn around time was only a few days. Communication was constant with the rep and no issues. Which phase of the moon was this? I was in Iraq when I lost my tailcap & they wanted me to ship them the entire light to replace it. |
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Ahh sorry to hear that. I guess I just got lucky.
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Which phase of the moon was this? I was in Iraq when I lost my tailcap & they wanted me to ship them the entire light to replace it. Quoted:
Quoted: I have a few of the WML's. No issues. I do know that we got one with a switch problem and it was sent back. In our return, customer service was great and turn around time was only a few days. Communication was constant with the rep and no issues. Which phase of the moon was this? I was in Iraq when I lost my tailcap & they wanted me to ship them the entire light to replace it. |
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The momentary only models all seem to be fine and about 1/3 of the multi mode models have the drain issue. Inforce told me in an email that the drain is a result of switch used and to just unscrew it when not in use. They ignored me when I asked for a refund. I would go with a Streamlight or a surefire before Inforce. For $150 you can get a m952v that has a bright IR function and is backed by Surefire's great CS.
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I really liked mine until the battery drained after a week of no use and inforce told me to pound sand Reports like these are what's stopping me from buying an Inforce light. I really like the light weight and design of the WMLs but I have no interest in a light that will drain itself unless I unscrew the lens. Do all of the Inforce lights do this or are the ones that are doing it malfunctioning? It's hard to believe a company would put out a light that drains batteries when it's not being used... The momentary only models all seem to be fine and about 1/3 of the multi mode models have the drain issue. Inforce told me in an email that the drain is a result of switch used and to just unscrew it when not in use. They ignored me when I asked for a refund. I would go with a Streamlight or a surefire before Inforce. For $150 you can get a m952v that has a bright IR function and is backed by Surefire's great CS.
SureFire M952V LED WeaponLight - Rifles/Carbines/SMGs Picatinny, White/IR, BlackModel: SureFire M952V LED WeaponLight - Rifles/Carbines/SMGs Picatinny, White/IR, Black $416.50 |
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http://images1.opticsplanet.com/755-405-ffffff/opplanet-surefire-m952v.jpg SureFire M952V LED WeaponLight - Rifles/Carbines/SMGs Picatinny, White/IR, BlackModel: SureFire M952V LED WeaponLight - Rifles/Carbines/SMGs Picatinny, White/IR, Black $416.50 Quoted:
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I really liked mine until the battery drained after a week of no use and inforce told me to pound sand Reports like these are what's stopping me from buying an Inforce light. I really like the light weight and design of the WMLs but I have no interest in a light that will drain itself unless I unscrew the lens. Do all of the Inforce lights do this or are the ones that are doing it malfunctioning? It's hard to believe a company would put out a light that drains batteries when it's not being used... The momentary only models all seem to be fine and about 1/3 of the multi mode models have the drain issue. Inforce told me in an email that the drain is a result of switch used and to just unscrew it when not in use. They ignored me when I asked for a refund. I would go with a Streamlight or a surefire before Inforce. For $150 you can get a m952v that has a bright IR function and is backed by Surefire's great CS.
http://images1.opticsplanet.com/755-405-ffffff/opplanet-surefire-m952v.jpg SureFire M952V LED WeaponLight - Rifles/Carbines/SMGs Picatinny, White/IR, BlackModel: SureFire M952V LED WeaponLight - Rifles/Carbines/SMGs Picatinny, White/IR, Black $416.50 You'd be an idiot to pay full MSRP or even retail. There's always a half dozen of those things in the EE for next to nothing. |
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You'd be an idiot to pay full MSRP or even retail. There's always a half dozen of those things in the EE for next to nothing. Quoted:
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I really liked mine until the battery drained after a week of no use and inforce told me to pound sand Reports like these are what's stopping me from buying an Inforce light. I really like the light weight and design of the WMLs but I have no interest in a light that will drain itself unless I unscrew the lens. Do all of the Inforce lights do this or are the ones that are doing it malfunctioning? It's hard to believe a company would put out a light that drains batteries when it's not being used... The momentary only models all seem to be fine and about 1/3 of the multi mode models have the drain issue. Inforce told me in an email that the drain is a result of switch used and to just unscrew it when not in use. They ignored me when I asked for a refund. I would go with a Streamlight or a surefire before Inforce. For $150 you can get a m952v that has a bright IR function and is backed by Surefire's great CS.
http://images1.opticsplanet.com/755-405-ffffff/opplanet-surefire-m952v.jpg SureFire M952V LED WeaponLight - Rifles/Carbines/SMGs Picatinny, White/IR, BlackModel: SureFire M952V LED WeaponLight - Rifles/Carbines/SMGs Picatinny, White/IR, Black $416.50 You'd be an idiot to pay full MSRP or even retail. There's always a half dozen of those things in the EE for next to nothing. Agreed... |
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I believe it was April this year.
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No worries - when was this, approximately? Maybe they're improving. This is the first positive data point I can recall seeing. Quoted:
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Quoted: I really liked mine until the battery drained after a week of no use and inforce told me to pound sand |
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I have the multi-function one. Battery has been in it for months with no issues. Are you sure something isn't triggering the switch when you have it in the bag? Are you using the little bar that prevents accidentally turning it on? Quoted:
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I really liked mine until the battery drained after a week of no use and inforce told me to pound sand Yes, it was hashed out pretty good in an older thread. Long story short, I've got 5 multi-function WMLs. 4 of the 5 have no issues. The 5th will drain a battery in a week with zero use, stored securely. Multiple people have been told by Inforce that WMLs should be stored with the bezel backed off slightly and it isn't an issue they feel needs addressed. |
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I have the multi-function one. Battery has been in it for months with no issues. Are you sure something isn't triggering the switch when you have it in the bag? Are you using the little bar that prevents accidentally turning it on? Quoted:
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I really liked mine until the battery drained after a week of no use and inforce told me to pound sand I am absolutely positive it wasn't accidental activation. |
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