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Posted: 9/23/2008 7:18:49 AM EDT
| Does anyone have pic of a Surefire 6p with malkoff m60 in action at night? |
+1! I purchased one of the M60 bulbs from Gene as an experiment to try in my 6P belt light. I now have 5 of them - two for flashlights, and three in my surefire weapon lights. The throw, spill, and pure WHITE LIGHT his lamps produce is amazing. WAY better than the surefire LEDs. And he recently sold me a prototype triple for a streamlight SL20X. Simply amazing! One note, though - you can use these lamps in the surefire "G" series polymer lights (G2 or G3), but you'll want to get an aftermarket, metal head for the lights. The LEDs make too much heat for the plastic heads on the "G" lights. (Surefire now sells their G2L lights with metal heads for the same reason). |
With typical use (few minutes per session) & quality batteries you should get even a little longer peak runtime. After peak, the declining brightness will be in the neighborhood of 2-2.5 hours. As for night time performance, the M60 will provide good flood & excellent down range performance. It will allow upwards of 75-80+ yds. of good clear target id (depending upon circumstances) and even a bit more if conditions are optimal (no fog, smoke or haze). |
I am thinking about getting a surefire 6p led and the malkoff m60 for so I can switch back and forth when I dont need the lumens. What are the lumens and the runtime of a surefire 6p led? and are surefire battiers good quailty batteries? |
From the Surefire Website:
I hav'nt had any problems yet with Surefire Batteries. Your better off using what the Manufacturer recommends. That way if something were to happen, it would be covered. But then Surefire has a damn good Warranty anyway. |
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I deal with cr123a flashlights all the time, and for frequent use I'd recommend rechargable li-on batteries, specifically "aw" as they have many protection methods built in. They also charge up to about 4.2v when full, which 99% of the time wont hurt the flashlight electronics(the driver), but will cause the output to be noticably brighter at first. They are "almost" as safe as plain cr123a's, though if you notice only carry about half the current(750mah, whereas some cr123a's can approach 1500mah but slowly lower in current capability just like normal batteries, as do the rechargeables). Also, Ive heard nothing but good comments on the malkoffs even though they are a bit expensive. www.lighthound.com/AW-RCR123a-Protected-750-mAh-Battery_p_0-114.html they do require a special charger, but it can be had for 12usd shipped from china. another decent upgrade is the tactical head from an offbrand company(works great) www.lighthound.com/GP-Tactical-Head-for-SureFire_p_6-507.html Ive built a surefire 6PDL for less then $50 in parts sourced from ebay mostly (regular 6p, surefire branded drop-in as I got to pick from a lot of over 250 of them, Im certain mine outputs more then fenix lights I have rated twice as much). The pressure switch I use is made by a shotgun company called tacstar, and its held up well, the chinese pressure switches are utter crap, avoid them. It does not flicker in the shock of firing. I however would reccomend starting with a g2 plain and using a drop-in as it will at less weight(the 6p body is thick and adds weight) http://ill.cc/nick/bm/DSC00012.JPG |
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I have a Malkoff 60 drop in for my 6P mounted weaponlight and can honestly say it is the best, IMHO, upgrade possible for the 6P on any light in that line. As mentioned if you are going to use a G2/3 for your body, make sure you use a metal head, even if using the Surefire P60L. Jim |
The Surefire IN NO WAY is even CLOSE to putting out 80 lumens for 11 hours. 11 hours out it will be like a keychain LED and for MANY hours thats all the brightness you will be getting. Still Surefire has decided it pretty obviuos you wont think its going to be 10X dimmer at hour 5-11 than hour one and you will think it will do the full 80 lumens for the full 11 hours... which defys physics. |
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