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Posted: 5/22/2008 9:19:22 AM EDT
| I am thinking of puting a green laer on my AR, I have seen a few on some of your guys just wondering what everyone else is using.... or should I just go with the lasermax one??? |
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My uncle ordered this out of the Sportsman's Guide for $100 and it is worth every penny. Its durable and can be seen for miles, if your going to get a green dot you should try this model. Link |
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I have the lasermax. It has a warranty, is probably the lightest/smallest laser out there, holds an excellent zero, is completely waterproof, has a built-in picatinny mount as well as a pictinny rail to mount a light on, and is extremely well-built. The disadvantage is the cost, power, and fact that it is strobe-only (not necessarily a problem). The laser is only 5mW, but trurst me, most 20mW lasers out there are cheap knock-offs that break easily (I've went through two of them). also, for tactical applications, a 20mW is a bad-choice. It is way too powerful at night to be tactically viable. The 5mW shows up very clearly on target, but does not leave a strong beam through the air. The 20mW is very easy to spot, but gives other shooter a very clear beam that he can follow back to your position. This beam can be seen from almost any angle, so tactically, it is a huge disadvantage. I would honestly go with a small, reliable, 5mw with excellent mounting options than a clunky 20mW that is not reliable and is not good at holding zero. |
Great point the 20mw is way to powerful for anything but running the cats around the house. The beam is clearly visible in the air at night or inside. |
I think you guys are missing the point of the higher wattage green laser. It's designed to put the dot on target in full daylight. Red, low wattage green and higher wattage green all have their good points. Pick one that best suits your needs. |
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CDNN has them for around $80 |
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I considered getting the green lasermax unit, until I read the operating temperatures. It was like 40 to 100 degrees. The red one went to 120. It's not man enough to handle the Arizona heat. The run time for the green unit is rather weak also. And it takes some funny hard to find batteries. -Steve |
| The red one will run well above 120 degrees. we were testing them in an oven preset to 350 degrees for 20 min. Engineers forgot it went 90 mins but still worked even though the batteries expanded in the holders. Also had it down to -10 degrees. Havnt done any colder testing than that though yet |
| Done all kinds of tests on the Green red and I.R. The green is an I.R. laser thats been frequency doubled and made to force the beam through a glass crystal to make green than an I.R. filter is put on to filter out the harmfull I.R. The greens have more restrictions to temprature and battery restrictions. The green lasermax lasers are tested to be fired on rifles, shotguns and pistols for many thousands of rounds . Thats why they are able to warrenty them for 3 years. Many of the cheap imported lasers do not even provide an I.R. filter on them so if you shine them accidently in your eye or someone elses you can cause permanent damage. The Reds, and I.R.s are water proof and shock proof plus they only weigh .8 oz can be changed form a pulsed beam to a steady beam, and act as their own pic rail. The maximin laser that can be sold to civilians to use on weapons as sighting devices is <5mw The FDA regulates lasers I know there are some out there that ate 20mw + that are being sold most are not being caught b the FDA as they have a hard enough time trying to keep our food safe and lead out of our kids toys. if they ever decide to enforce the laws on it any laser over 5mw can be taken away, just like a unlicensed supressor as well as the weapon it is on. There is talk in congress about making lasers under the jurisdiction of the BATF |
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Sure thing. It is going on this one. www.citlink.net/~boehm/AR15/100_2857.jpg I'm going to put the paracord over the tape switch on the forward vertical grip. I'm not sure how well that will work yet. We'll see. I'm still waiting for my tan and OD green XTM covers. |
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A small Lasermax Uni Review. I received the unit today. I ordered a 10" tape switch and some spare batteries from Lasermax also. The shipment from Lasermax arrived a few days before my laser. So I proceeded to mount the tape switch to my SBR. My SBR is a 10.5" Noveske barrel with a Vortex flash suppressor. I'm using a 10" Daniels Defense Lite rail. I use a Dieter forward vertical grip that is wrapped in FDE Paracord. My weapon light is a Pentagon Stealth with a Larue offset mount. I removed the paracord from my forward vertical grip and cleaned the surface with the provided alcohol pad. I then applied the velcro tape to the tape switch pocket on the Dieter FVG. I then re-wrapped the FVG with paracord. I was careful not to overtighten the paracord over the tape switch because it would obviously turn the laser on. I then routed the wire to the front bottom rail of the Daniels Defense Lite Rail. The 10" length tape switch was perfect for my FVG placement. I then zip tied the wire to the air holes of the rail system to keep everything secured and tangle free. The tape switch is fairly easy to install into the lasermax unit. Care must be taken not to strip the small screws that hold the wiring harness to the laser itself. The paracord offers a layer of protection over the tape switch. It is very easy to manipulate the laser. I found the battery housing for the laser to be kind of cheap. I wish Lasermax had built a tougher housing. I'd suffer a few extra ounces of weight for an aluminum housing. I had planned to put a Magpul XTM rail cover segment on the body of the laser, but it wouldn't fit. Using a cut XT panel would be knocked off easily. Sighting in the laser was extremely easy. I have a laser bore sight. I turned on both lasers, aimed at the neighbors house about 50 yards away, and dialed it in with the allen wrench. I then fine tuned it to match my Aimpoint and iron sights. In bright Arizona daylight, you'll be lucky to see the laser at 20 - 25 yards. At night, you'll have the range of a mile. Given this, I set mine to intersect at about 50 yards. Pros - Extremely light weight - Tape switch makes the activation system easy to use - Price (140 shipped) - Red run time is 4 hours - You can select pulse or steady beam with the red unit Cons - Cheap housing susceptible to damage - Battery compartment is very cheap - Daylight brightness (not much you can do about this at 5mw red) - Bottom Picatinny rail on housing won't accept XTM rail covers - I'd prefer two screws to hold the housing to the rail for added stability - Doesn't say or appear to be water proof I'll post some photos when I take some decent ones. |
Man charged under Patriot Act for aiming laser at aircraft PursuitSS |
Holy cow! Note to self: do not point laser at sky. |
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I finally got around to taking some OK photos of the laser installation. I linked the photos because they're too large to simply post. Here is the laser housing. www.citlink.net/~boehm/AR15/100_2927.jpg This is the tape switch I installed in the Dieter CQB Forward Vertical grip. www.citlink.net/~boehm/AR15/100_2934.jpg Most of the wiring is concealed by the weapon light. I zip tied the wire in place with about 4 small zip ties. Be careful using zip ties though, if they're anywhere near the gas tube they will melt. You may even run into issues doing mag dumps just from the barrel heat. The tape switch also uses the velcro pad tape pad. So the switch isn't going anywhere unless you want it to. |
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25 years for shining a laser on a plane? 7 years for anally raping a 5 year old girl? The sweet-sweet smell of justice smells like sewage. "Dayum, you've got 25 years in prison? What did you do? Shoot the Pope?" "Naw, he got less time. I shined a laser pointer on an airplane." Nevermind... If I post what I wrote, I'd be banned. |
AND a fine of up to $500,000.00 !!! PursuitSS |
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