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Posted: 2/2/2006 11:27:35 AM EDT
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Okay Ken, fill us in. The press release did not mention whether it was adaptable between universal and picatinny but it looks to have a replaceable set of rails so I would assume it is. Will it fit in holsters for the M3, M3X or x200? I would like to know what pressure switches will be available. Hopefully one for long gun mounting with pad sized for the TangoDown VFG cutout? |
![]() ![]() ![]() Download Initial SpecSheet Since we have partnered with Insight on this, we are using their rail system. Their rail attachment system is a patented, adjustable Slide-Lock TM interface. Therefore it will work on the Pic Rail or a Universal rail. Tape switches are the next logical step and they are in development for this light. Light will work with existing holsters of the M3 / x200 variants. BlackHawk is turning around and making Glock Pistol CQC holster that will work with this setup. That will be be shown at the SHOT Show in Vegas next week I understand. Looking to May of 2006 for full production. Finally, I think BlackHawk/Night-Ops teamed with Insight Technologies is a powerful combination for development and placement into the market. They have really stepped up to work with us. I personally have really enjoyed the interactions with them. We have lots of things to address. I am really looking forward to the things ahead. Respectfully, Ken J. Good Night-Ops Illumination Tools |
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We are probably going to do some restyling on the bezel. It terms of function, fit we are there. It is a very clean 3-watt LED LED system. Going to be priced just underneath the "other guys". Insight just gave me this small Promo Video. Night-Ops will do one with a bit more action/Hollywood/needless bravado.... |
| Range is listed as only 25-30m does this mean it has a much wider beam than the Gladius? If so why a different beam than the Gladius? Is it digitally regulated? Does it have thermal protection? Does it have a low battery indicator like the Gladius? Is the rocker switch like the Insight lights (temp-on to one side and perm-on on the other)? What will the price be? I bought my X200 new for $150 out the door. I doubt I will see this light below that figure. Is the weight with or without batteries? Sorry so many question but this is something I have been waiting for as much as a rail mounted Gladius. |
$150 for a SF X200A is a gift (someone about broke even). So when Ken says that the Xiphos will be priced below, he is comparing retail to retail. Retail on the X200A is $250 so I would expect to see the Xihpos retail for around $230-$240. C4 |
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Is the thicker design of the body intended to give greater structural strength or to act as a heat sink due to the higher output compared to the Surefire X200A/B? Just wondering why its about an ounce heavier due to the aluminum bulk you guys put in the body. Knowing how well thought out your products are I am sure there is a specific reason. Cant wait to buy one. Oh, Will it outthrow a Surefire X200A? |
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Unless you are planning on using your pistol as a hammer at a certain point you only need so much structural strength to make the grade. Thicker will make is stronger, sink it a bit better and let us have the body style we wanted. I am not sure if the SF weight listed is with or without batteries: "Weighs less than 4 ounces". How much less? We are going to use a newest line of 3-watt LED's, the K2. Excellent output on this LED/reflector combination. As far as I am aware the SF pistol lights are using a 5-watt LED which inherently flood more than the 3-watt LED's. That being said, some like throw, some light flood. This light will tend toward the throwing end of the spectrum. I have not done a light for light comparision, that will come no doubt fairly soon. |
| Glad to see another LED handgun weaponslights on the market! The X200A & B are great setups but each have their weaknesses, if the Xiphos is similar to the Gladius then it sounds like we'll be getting a good mixture of flood and intensity. Up until now the M3X was about the only 'all-in-one' option. |
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Hell I prefer more weight to help muzzle rise. I am buying no matter what when its released as it has to have more spread than my X200A with the 3 watt LED. Love the throw of the X200 but the Gladius kicks the snot out of it going room to room in a dark building... bout the same in long hallways. So the switch is ambi on both sides. Does this mean partial lever press for temp up and down and if it moved fully up or down on either side its perm? Does it have the press forward to temp activate like the Surefire X200? From your lack of response I am assuming it does not have any computer controlled thermal/polarity protection and is just a simple regualtion. |
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The BlackHawk web site lists the light at $239.95 www.blackhawk.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=4958&d= |
![]() So the levers are independant? Because if they are connected down for one side is up for the other so if you shoot wek handed the switching is opposite. If they ar connected how do you keep the light from going so high on the other side to hit the perm activation? If they are independant levers that is a VERY cool upgrade to the switching system. Perhaps it works some other way I am not understanding. Cant wait to play with it. |
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Supposed to have the lastest interation of the tape switch for the Gladius in my hand at SHOT show tomorrow. There is an engineer dedicated to this tasking specifically. Night-Ops has been given additional engineering resources, so we should be able to start picking up the pace. I have already have the converstation with the decision maker for the Tape Switch on the Xiphos. Hopefully that can be released shortly after or on the June 2006 launch time frame. It is a must & will occur. |
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I hate to bring up that other flashlight manufacturer, but the pressure switches on their pistol lights are the heat. I haven't seen anything better yet. The tape switches available for the Insight Technologies pistol lights are, in my opinion and the opinion of most if not all of the other officers currently using them on my departmet, substandard. So far you and the engineers you work with are coming up with some great, cutting edge stuff. I hope that you guys can come up with a pistol light pressure switch that is similar, but puts those other guys to shame. T. Jepson |
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Got the input on the tape switch, thanx. We are listening! Extra battery, don't see it happening. The extra battery will not increase your light output on a 3-watt LED light, just the runtime. In my opinion that extra runtime would not justify the extra bulk of the pistol light...Moving in the wrong direction there. |
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On the subject of tape switches, I'd have to agree that the "other" company's tape switches are the best as far as tape switches are concerned. This really doesn't mean anything because I have a p116 that is waiting a replacemnt tape switch back at Surefire. The Insight tape switch for my ILWLP are pretty much useless. That being said, I don't like tape switches. For me, and YMMV the tape switches are difficult to activate with gloves on, and I tend to shoot primarily with gloves on. The rocker switch that the Insight lights come with are my personal preference. I can activate them no matter what grip I use, whether one or two handed and are user replaceable. Did I mention that we're testing out the ILWLP Just my $0.000000002 worth. |
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Ken, When I was referring to the Insight tape switch, I was referring to the pig tail pressure switch. I was informed recently that the Streamlight M3X is available with a "Dev Group" style pressure switch. I have no experience with it, but have heard that it appears to be quality. I'm sure you have something on the drawing boards that will be just as, or exceeds the quality of this. |
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