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Posted: 9/13/2005 8:34:52 PM EDT
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I'm thinking about buying one of these NVGs. I have a Trijicon reflex II on my ar. If I have the NVG monocular over my left eye, and I look through the sight with my right eye, how well will the two images coincide? Thanks in advance |
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I just tried this the other night with an Aimpoint...thinking of solutions for folks without NV compatable red-dots. Sounded simple in theory. But, it is really, really hard. However, Using a headmounted monocular on your right eye is awesome (and personally preferred to a weapon mount). But, yout Relex may be waaay too bright to do that. |
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The trick with head mounted goggles being used with a rifle mounted red dot or reflex sight is to have the sight far enough forward on your rail that it doesn't hit during recoil and high enough that you don't have to strain to bring your head down to meet the sight. Dave |
Fixed it for you.
Yes, but then you have to point your weapon at folks to look around. That's why all the hype about IR lasers; you can have your cake and shoot it, too. |
Exactly, You get a much better feild of view, with the head mount & an IR laser. (And you don';t need to swing around a heavy weapon to scan your surroundings). A QD weapons mount (Like GG&G's) allows the best of both worlds, where you have a weapon mount independent of the headgear mount. Switching between the two takes seconds... |
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Okay, so I'm learning something here. That's good. GG&G makes a QD fitting for the PVS-14. If you can see in the dark with the NVD why do you need the IR laser? I thought those were for target designation - pointing to something so "the other guy" could shoot at it. I thought the IR flashlight attachments were a general purpose IR light source for when there was too little ambient light, such as indoors, in a cave or a cloudy night with no stars/moon. One way to use the head mount and still shoot is to use an Aimpoint sight. You see the Aimpoint's dot reticle with the unaided eye and you see the target via the other, NVD-aided, eye. Put the dot on the target and squeeze. That way you do not have to be a contortionist and line up the head-mounted NVD with the Aimpoint on the rifle. Yes, no? If I am incorrect, please feel free to set me straight. |
I am sure there are others with more experience than I have with NVD, but this what I have found to be the case while playing around with mine. Dave |
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Also, an NVD setup to a helmet mount is not going to fall naturally behind your optic and be as easy or quick as using the optic in the daylight. When you set up your NVD, you pick a distance at which you want things to be in focus. If you are in a combat environment, you would focus your NV at the distance in which you expect to engage the enemy...and your rifle will be completely out of focus (which is one of the reasons you can't use your iron sights). With the EOtech and Aimpoint, the reticle is on the same focal plane as the target, more or less, so you can be focused on both the target and the reticle at the same time. In my opinion, it is awkward lining up head mounted night vision with weapon mounted optics quickly. With my PVS-7, the most efficient way is to tilt the rifle like the army teaches one to shoot with a pro mask on. I have both an EOtech and an Aimpoint. Way back, occasionally an individual might focus one lens of his PVS 5 at close range, and one at long range in an attempt to overcome some of these issues. With an IR laser and a head mounted NVD, the weapon is presented in the standard fashion, except the head does not need to get down behind the weapon to aquire a sight picture. The laser is activated, and the target is engaged much more quickly, IMO. As to shooting with a '14 on the left eye, and a aimpoint on the right, I don't think that would work well (although I have never tried it). The '14 does not have to be parrallel to the bore of your rifle to present you with an image... my eyes won't 'lock' together, and point in the same direction, if I can't see the same thing with both eyes. I think it would be a goat rope shooting that way. |
Both the EOtech and the Aimpoint can be purchased with night vision compatible settings. The reflex (which is a poor combat sight IMO) provides light to the reticle based on ambient light, or tritium, whichever is brightest. The reticle would be far to bright, plus the darkly tinted lense would be counter productive. |
I couldn't agree with you more on the observations of the IR laser use. It's been absolutely the fastest way to get accurate hits on targets in my experience. What's interesting is I started out running my 14 over my right eye and trying to shoulder the weapon to fire. I was never completely satisfied with the way this worked out and read online reports of individuals using their non dominant eye to look through the NV. I tried this and soon found that I could get down on the gun far easier with the optic over the left eye and I didn't seem to be experiencing the situation of banging the NV into the gun. So in this respect one way worked better for me than for some. While I run both Eotechs and Aimpoints I truly feel the Eotech is the superior unit when used with the PVS 14. The hood tends to disappear better than the body of the Aimpoint for me and the combination of 1 MOA dot and 65 MOA outer circle is very fast when engaging targets in an already dark environment...All basically enhancements of how the sight works in daylight shooting. |
Indeed...ALL my 200M and in-work is accomplished with a 14 mounted to my head and a laser does all the talking!  I can never see going back to getting a cheek weld to shoot at night. The ONLY time I do this nowadays is when I'm shooting 300M or better with my Raptors and D-760's. This "heads-up" shooting is incredibly fast and VERY accurate while employing a laser.
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Well, I learned something from this thread - IR lasers are also sighting devices. I have never had any luck at all with weapon mounted laser projection sights. I suppose if the military uses them, they work. Who makes the specific model used by the military? Are they available to civilians? What do they cost? |
You might want to look at this thread... www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=20&t=235434 |
IR lasers are restricted items for LE/MIL sales only if they are 5MW or above. They are regulated by the FDA. Short and sweet for your time contraints!
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5mW? I have a 1 kW IR laser at work. Talk about lighting up the dark, I could fry the dark. Are they retricted by law to LEO/MIL only or is it that they require a license? What's the price and power output of that PEQ-2A which "mfingar" was showing at the end of the thread? |
25 mW output. laser. 30 mW output illuminator. They run between $1500-$2500 (depending on the condition and accessories) |
If that's the case then why is the Aimpoint LPI restricted? It is only .1MW. |
It's not restricted by law, simply by company policy. They don't want you to have it. |
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