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6/28/2005 6:08:16 AM EDT
a) Doesn't it mess the aiming up since they are not inline with the bore.  I put an M6X on my AR pistol and zeroed at 25 yards, and of course at any other distance it's off on two axes cause its mounted on teh side.....  

b) other than designation of targets for others, can these be used for night aiming with a non-illuminated scope?  That's the only thing I can think off..

c) is there some kind of ghetto rangefindiung that can be done by zeroing the laser at a certain distance and then comparing laser point to point of aim with sights?
6/28/2005 8:00:19 AM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
a) Doesn't it mess the aiming up since they are not inline with the bore.  I put an M6X on my AR pistol and zeroed at 25 yards, and of course at any other distance it's off on two axes cause its mounted on teh side.....  

b) other than designation of targets for others, can these be used for night aiming with a non-illuminated scope?  That's the only thing I can think off..

c) is there some kind of ghetto rangefindiung that can be done by zeroing the laser at a certain distance and then comparing laser point to point of aim with sights?



Generally speaking, lasers that are mounted at 3 or 9 position are for designating a target. Lasers mounted at the 12 position for aiming.

Laser's are great for CQB and have been proven to be an effective tool for ending a bad situation without firing a round.


C4
6/28/2005 8:00:52 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
a) Doesn't it mess the aiming up since they are not inline with the bore.  I put an M6X on my AR pistol and zeroed at 25 yards, and of course at any other distance it's off on two axes cause its mounted on teh side.....  

b) other than designation of targets for others, can these be used for night aiming with a non-illuminated scope?  That's the only thing I can think off..

c) is there some kind of ghetto rangefindiung that can be done by zeroing the laser at a certain distance and then comparing laser point to point of aim with sights?



A. Do what the military does and maintain a hold off from POI so it remains constant.

B. Its till only good to about 200 yards then you have to hold over.  I can see some lasers at night over a mile.

C. Not with any degree of accuracy your sights and laser should both be a 50m zero.  If your using an unliuminated scope you could not see the reticle and if you could youd be better off using mildots to range.

6/28/2005 8:45:57 AM EDT
[#3]

A. Do what the military does and maintain a hold off from POI so it remains constant.


I read that, I think Ayoob did that with a 1911PD he was testing with laser- seems like a good way to keep it in line - I'm thinking about doing same thing......
6/28/2005 11:37:32 AM EDT
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In my mind, the laser is a short range, Dim to Dark light "Aiming Optic". Differentiating from a "Targeting" laser.

I sight mine (Aiming Laser) in at 7 meters (21 Ft.) for a precise POI. This is the longest distance from any wall to another wall in my home. Anything closer than that I don't worry about. Because the typical 650nM laser can't be seen past 20 yards in bright sunlight...I will not anticipate using it outdoors past 20 yards, nor will I use it if I can't clearly ID the target.

I agree with Grant about where to mount an "Aiming Laser", and that's at 12:00 position because you only have to deal with the vertical (Height of POI) issue versus additional horizontal/ windage issues.

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