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Posted: 11/12/2003 12:59:49 PM EDT
I'm interested in getting a light for my M4, but have a couple of questions. I don't want wires and want to know if the M95/96 series lights can use the tailcap like the Z48/49? Besides more power and brighter light what's the main difference between the 95 and 96? What's the purpose of the blue filter for? Thanks for your the input.
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 1:24:39 PM EDT
[#1]
Yes it can use the Z48.  In fact, Wes at [url]www.mstn.biz[/url] just sold me a Z48 to replace the tape switch on my 962.

More power and light are the main differences between the 95 and 96 series.  Even though the 96 series LOOKS a lot heavier, in fact it weights only a few onces more and is more than worth the extra power the light gives you.  Its not too much light for indoor use.  It has a blinding center of light with a nice soft illuminated area around that that works just fine indoors, even when smokey, and yet it still has the reach to light up distant targets.
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 2:25:23 PM EDT
[#2]
What Lumpy said.  Get the 962 - minor increase in weight, major increase in light output.

The blue filter turns the beam blue [;)].  This can help preserve your night vision or help follow a blood trail as the blue light turns the red blood black.  

Some will say the blue filter helps increase contrast with your red dot sight, but it reduces the output so much that this is not a viable option, although it makes a nice parlor trick.
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 4:27:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/12/2003 4:39:49 PM EDT
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THE BLUE LENS MAKES TRACKING A BLOOD TRAIL EASIER, I AM TOLD.

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Scorpions too [):)]
Link Posted: 11/13/2003 5:24:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/14/2003 11:06:10 AM EDT
[#6]
Thanks for input. Looks like the M96 series is the way to go.
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 11:15:15 AM EDT
[#7]
How many different types of tail end are there for the M96 series lights?
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 11:19:22 AM EDT
[#8]
I can advise that the best SF lights are the 9V lights.  One extra cell doubles rated output.  I also advise the tip-off filter, either in blue, or the the "beamshaper" filter, which diffuses the hotspot into a wider angle.
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 11:41:31 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/14/2003 11:47:27 AM EDT
[#10]
And as was pointed out to me by Wes, the Z48 doesnt require you to cut back or remove any rail cover panels.
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 7:32:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/15/2003 2:02:59 PM EDT
[#12]
One of these days Wes....


I dont need a retirement fund do I???
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 2:45:30 PM EDT
[#13]
I am in the process of deciding between the 952C and 962C for my 16" carbine with SIR 50. What are the overall length measurements for both units and is the difference in length more on one end than the other in comparison to the ARMS mount or is the mount centered with the light?

I like the M900 because of the 6 oclock light position but the vertical grip in my opinion is about 2" too long.

Thanks, Mike
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 3:42:51 PM EDT
[#14]
I just got my M962SU06A01...

But.. What is A01 means?
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 5:35:58 PM EDT
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I just got my M962SU06A01...

But.. What is A01 means?
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A01 means "non standard" package.  Probably came with both the tape switch and the SW02 click on?
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 8:19:57 PM EDT
[#16]
Yes! It dose comes with the SW02 click switch and the 6" tape switch (SU06)!!

I was thinking the A01 tells about the types of the body coz mine one is different from the pics posted by C4iGrant.

And sometimes I saw different numbers on the main battaries compartment, mine one starts with A01XXXXX, is it a serial number or a part number?
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 1:57:00 AM EDT
[#17]
Yes, that number on the Millennium Universal Housing [MH90] starting "A01xxxxx" is the Serial Number.

"[i]The M962NSU05A01 is SureFire's nomenclature for a 9 volt MU System [/i][M96][i] that's specially waterproofed [/i][N][i] and delivered with two switches, a 5" pressure-pad tape switch [/i][SU05][i] and a click-on momentary thumb switch. By delivering this custom version of the M962 with two switches, the operator can choose the one he likes best.[/i]"
Written by Travis Mitchell, article "[i]Get Some! - A special report on the guns and gear that U.S. forces used to "get some."[/i]" from page 84 of Guns&Ammo Combat Tactics 2004 Vol 1, No. 2.
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 3:59:05 AM EDT
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[img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=19736[/img]
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 4:40:47 AM EDT
[#19]
I have overlooked the "N" on the lable...

Dose that mean there are some non "N" version available?

Can we diferentiate them by their outlook?
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 6:31:25 AM EDT
[#20]
Most SureFires are not "N".
The "N" means they have been individually pressure tested.
"[i]The 101st Airborne and the 82nd Airborne Divisions opted for a smailar light [/i][as the M962NSU05A01][i]. The Screaming Eagles chose the M962C, eliminating the special waterproofing...[/i]"
Written by Travis Mitchell, article "Get Some! - A special report on the guns and gear that U.S. forces used to "get some."" from page 86 of Guns&Ammo Combat Tactics 2004 Vol 1, No. 2.

Al
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 10:43:44 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:

I like the M900 because of the 6 oclock light position but the vertical grip in my opinion is about 2" too long.

Thanks, Mike
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What is the negative impact of having the M900 at its current length?  Is there some issue I am not aware of like it wont fit in certain soft sided bags while attached or something?
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 11:42:55 AM EDT
[#22]
DevL, to me the vertical grip is too long, I feel it would be problematic when shooting over a barricade and going prone. I think one that extended about 4" total from the mounting rail would be ideal.
Link Posted: 11/18/2003 5:20:50 PM EDT
[#23]
DevL, to me the vertical grip is too long, I feel it would be problematic when shooting over a barricade and going prone. I think one that extended about 4" total from the mounting rail would be ideal.
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Do you really want to shoot over a barricade?  Someone might reach up an grab your barrel.  Isn't it better to stand behind cover rather than shoot over it?

Doesn't a 30-round magazine go lower than the M900 grip and make the going prone issue moot?  If you want about a half an inch shorter, use the original battery cap rather than the one with the disable switch.  (I have a couple if you would like to try it.)
Link Posted: 11/18/2003 6:27:10 PM EDT
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