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7/12/2010 8:03:40 AM EDT
First off let me say that I am relatively new to the AR-15 and shooting at a range.

When I go to shoot, I wear both ear plugs and ear muffs.  This cuts down the noise so that nothing bothers me in the slightest.  I am the only person at my range I have ever seen do this.  

But maybe that answers my main question:  Why do people complain about sitting next to an AR-15 with a muzzle break?  Yes, its noisy, but you are at a shooting range.  Shouldn't you expect that and take adequate steps to protect your ears?  If not go to a .22 only range.
7/12/2010 8:06:12 AM EDT
[#1]
yeah...some people bitch when it's loud at the range. pretty amazing! it's days like that i wish i had a .50BMG in the truck.
7/12/2010 8:09:54 AM EDT
[#2]
Some people just like to complain.

PS: have you tried a pair of electronic ear muffs? Its really nice to be hear everything else normal, but have the "bang" blocked.
7/12/2010 8:15:58 AM EDT
[#3]
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PS: have you tried a pair of electronic ear muffs? Its really nice to be hear everything else normal, but have the "bang" blocked.


no, I'll have to try a pair sometime.  Still too much cooler stuff I would rather get for my rifle.
7/12/2010 8:17:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
First off let me say that I am relatively new to the AR-15 and shooting at a range.

When I go to shoot, I wear both ear plugs and ear muffs.  This cuts down the noise so that nothing bothers me in the slightest.  I am the only person at my range I have ever seen do this.  

But maybe that answers my main question:  Why do people complain about sitting next to an AR-15 with a muzzle break?  Yes, its noisy, but you are at a shooting range.  Shouldn't you expect that and take adequate steps to protect your ears?  If not go to a .22 only range.

I think it's lame too. Gun noise is nothing to bitch about. I double up sometimes too, depending on what I'm doing. You should see the heads turn when we take the .300 WM out. Not just from the noise but from the concussion. Electronic muffs rock.


7/12/2010 8:26:13 AM EDT
[#5]
Because people buy hearing protection that's not suitable for the job. Get 31db muffs & no one will complain about AR or any other gun noise.
IDK I use either 28db or 31db muffs & I never had a problem. No need to double up on anything.
7/12/2010 8:33:58 AM EDT
[#6]
I always wear the foam ear plugs along with ear muffs. It really helps to reduce noise to the lowest possible level.

The people complain about the noise, but what's really bothering them is the concussion. Muzzle brakes thump your neighbors in the chest everytime you launch a round. You don't feel that from normal flash hiders and plain barrels. I was at the range and this guy was shooting his .300 Winchester Magnum with a muzzle brake, it kind of ruins your shooting concentration.
7/12/2010 8:35:50 AM EDT
[#7]
Yeah, let them complain about the ar... then break out something really noisy...

I use Peltor tactical 6s electronic ear muffs and they're pretty good... can hear normal conversation and the bang is blocked... battery life is pretty good too (as long as you remember to turn them off)... and they don't cost an arm and a leg either.
7/12/2010 9:17:35 AM EDT
[#8]
I only use ear muffs when shooting pistols.  I prefer to just use plugs with rifles and shotguns because the muffs get in the way of a good cheekweld on some of my rifles.  The plugs are convenient because you can partially pull them out to have a conversation and then push them in deep when shooting.
7/12/2010 9:20:26 AM EDT
[#9]
What gets me even more is people who refuse to buy certain muzzle devices because they "don't want to bother their neighbor at the range."  It's a shooting range, if you don't like the noise, find a new hobby.
7/12/2010 9:30:12 AM EDT
[#10]
electronic muffs work great, my only gripe is I get sweaty ears from them, and it weird wearing them the way things sound. Mine have a jack so I could plug in i pod or walkie talkie too
7/12/2010 10:06:39 AM EDT
[#11]
+1 for muffs& plugs. With 42 years of trigger time under my belt and a case of tinnitus since I left a fire & manuever range at Benning in 1978 I have a point of view on the subject. A lot of folks don't realize that hearing damage and loss is cumulative. That one "oops" here and another there, two or three times a year getting caught at the range without muffs on or plugs in, over a lifetime, will destroy your hearing. Each unshielded muzzle blast takes a little toll, you pay the bill later. I have constant ringing in both ears, all the time, that never ceases. I constantly annoy the wife to the point she stops talking to me because I give her the " NRA SALUTE"( cup hand behind ear, lean foward, and shout "HUH!?")
In noisy enviornments, I cannot distinguish conversation from background noise.

Double up. Protect your ears ftom ALL loud noise, or you will pay the price.
7/12/2010 10:33:12 AM EDT
[#12]
I've just started getting into shooting more and have only been using ear plugs.  Been interested in getting a set of over ear muffs, but don't know what to look for or where to find a good set without over-spending.  

Anyone have any suggestions?  Any help is appreciated.
7/12/2010 10:54:00 AM EDT
[#13]
Cabelas, Sportsmans Guide, Midway, The hated Cheaper than Dirt, Most places that sell tools, Even Wallyworld.
7/12/2010 11:04:13 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I've just started getting into shooting more and have only been using ear plugs.  Been interested in getting a set of over ear muffs, but don't know what to look for or where to find a good set without over-spending.  

Anyone have any suggestions?  Any help is appreciated.


http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/hearing-protection/safety/ecatalog/N-b2a?op=search&sst=All

You can also try your local gun shop / large retailer (cabelas carries a bunch of varieties).  Midway has a large selection too...  Grainger aften has a large selection of stuff and it's not "marked up" for shooters.

These Peltor's look nice http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1C139?Pid=search

I personally perfer muffs.  I have a low profile pair that is rated at 25 or 28 db reduction.  They are slim enough that they don't typically inferfear with a good cheek weld; however, there are some times where I pull um off and put plugs in (I always carry a bottle of 100 plugs in my bag for other shooters / people visiting the range that may be interested in membership... as I don't want them to be there without some sort of protection).  I find that I opt to take off my muffs when it's really hot (as my ears and head get all sweaty with them on).  Plugs protect very well if you get them seated correctly; however, I prefer electronic muffs when there is anyone else at the range (as it's much easier to hear commands, conversations, etc...).
7/12/2010 12:21:21 PM EDT
[#15]
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I've just started getting into shooting more and have only been using ear plugs.  Been interested in getting a set of over ear muffs, but don't know what to look for or where to find a good set without over-spending.  

Anyone have any suggestions?  Any help is appreciated.


Check your messages.  I may be able to help you out.
7/12/2010 12:43:43 PM EDT
[#16]
My Model 94 is a lot louder, .30-30, but wait til some guy shoots a .500S&W! Loudest report I've ever heard at an indoor range.
7/12/2010 1:57:01 PM EDT
[#17]
I always double up anymore.  Regular plugs with electronic muffs; can hear conversation fine, but much better protection than muffs alone.
7/12/2010 1:58:49 PM EDT
[#18]





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I've just started getting into shooting more and have only been using ear plugs.  Been interested in getting a set of over ear muffs, but don't know what to look for or where to find a good set without over-spending.  





Anyone have any suggestions?  Any help is appreciated.



http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=671923





 



These are the ones I and many others use.  At last month's tactical match there wasn't a direction you could look in and not see a pair.
7/12/2010 2:03:12 PM EDT
[#19]
for muffs, if you shoot long guns get the thinner type, the thick muffs could hit the stock messing up your cheek weld.

I also use the electronic muffs in the post above, there thin and priced well. Alot of the other electronic ones I could find were thick or very expensive
7/12/2010 2:19:52 PM EDT
[#20]
i use the 32 db reduction foam plugs and havnt had a problem, but i havnt shot next to an ar either... most shooting is done on private property and we space ourselves out.
7/12/2010 4:04:38 PM EDT
[#21]
Double cover (covers and ear plugs) are required for Air Force range personnel.  There's a reason-it helps preserve their hearing.  If you feel better using both, pleas continue!  I wish I'd done that earlier in my career; I would say "huh?" a lot less today.
7/12/2010 4:52:04 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I've just started getting into shooting more and have only been using ear plugs.  Been interested in getting a set of over ear muffs, but don't know what to look for or where to find a good set without over-spending.  

Anyone have any suggestions?  Any help is appreciated.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=671923
 

These are the ones I and many others use.  At last month's tactical match there wasn't a direction you could look in and not see a pair.


This.

My hearing loss is bad enough now that I have to wear electronic earmuffs or I can't hear a single thing anyone says. I have these and they work great and are low profile.
7/12/2010 5:19:13 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
I've just started getting into shooting more and have only been using ear plugs.  Been interested in getting a set of over ear muffs, but don't know what to look for or where to find a good set without over-spending.  

Anyone have any suggestions?  Any help is appreciated.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=671923
 

These are the ones I and many others use.  At last month's tactical match there wasn't a direction you could look in and not see a pair.


This.

My hearing loss is bad enough now that I have to wear electronic earmuffs or I can't hear a single thing anyone says. I have these and they work great and are low profile.


Probably because of all those people with muzzle brakes.  :P
7/12/2010 5:24:31 PM EDT
[#24]
Double up is the requirement for me and those I shoot with.  Most people do at my local range anyways as this is rentable,
7/12/2010 6:06:33 PM EDT
[#25]
I'm hoping to pick up a set of electronic earmuffs soon.
7/12/2010 7:06:14 PM EDT
[#26]
What?!...
7/12/2010 7:16:57 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
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I've just started getting into shooting more and have only been using ear plugs.  Been interested in getting a set of over ear muffs, but don't know what to look for or where to find a good set without over-spending.  

Anyone have any suggestions?  Any help is appreciated.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=671923
 

These are the ones I and many others use.  At last month's tactical match there wasn't a direction you could look in and not see a pair.


This.

My hearing loss is bad enough now that I have to wear electronic earmuffs or I can't hear a single thing anyone says. I have these and they work great and are low profile.


Probably because of all those people with muzzle brakes.  :P


LOL
7/12/2010 7:27:10 PM EDT
[#28]
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What?!...


I DON'T BOTHER WITH THEM. SOLDIERS IN DUBYA DUBYA DEUCE DIDN'T WEAR THEM DURN THINGS. THEY'RE JUST A SCAM BY THE HEARING "PROTECTION" CARTEL AND OSHA.

BESIDES, I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING ANYWAY
7/12/2010 10:30:24 PM EDT
[#29]
I don't but I probably should. One or the other really doesn't cut it at high power competitions.
7/13/2010 3:49:32 PM EDT
[#30]
I double up...



Never tried electronics. Saving up.
7/13/2010 6:22:47 PM EDT
[#31]
On a semi-related note (but mostly just because I want to tell this story) - over the Independence Day weekend, in the forest outside of South Park, my sons and I depleted my ammunition supply frighteningly. Being an inconvenient distance from a sporting goods store, when my sons ear muffs broke because he kept fiddling with them I gave him mine and we kept shooting. No problem with the .22s, only slightly uncomfortable with the 9mm P250. I was really quite surprised that the AR wasn't painful at all (until I remembered that the worst place, sound-wise, was beside one not behind one.

But, to the point of the story, while a  6" barrel kind of tames .38 through a GP100 so it was about the same as the P250, .357 was freakin' PAINFUL! Holy sweet mother of pearl, two shots and I was done.

Of course, it's possible I shot the AR after that (I don't rightly recall) so maybe it would have been horribly loud if I hadn't just further damaged my ears with a couple magnum rounds.

I think one of the reasons I've always disliked .44Magnum is that I grew up shooting without hearing protection. Intellectually I know the .357 wasn't that bad, but it's been nearly 20 years since I discovered earplugs (and about the same since I shot a .44) and I don't know how to finish this story
7/14/2010 3:32:51 AM EDT
[#32]
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over the Independence Day weekend, in the forest outside of South Park, my sons and I depleted my ammunition supply frighteningly.


Did you kill Kenny?
7/14/2010 6:10:05 AM EDT
[#33]
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over the Independence Day weekend, in the forest outside of South Park, my sons and I depleted my ammunition supply frighteningly.


Did you kill Kenny?


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