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Posted: 1/11/2010 7:25:37 AM EDT
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I have one, and I really like it so far. Only used it as a single point because I still need to get a front sling mount for my AR. I bought mine from Primary Arms. Tried to get it from Botach Tactical but they didn't have any. Of course I had to wait a week, then call them to find that out, plus call twice more to get my refund. Needless to say, I won't be dealing with them again.
As for the sling, it's quite easy to use, and pretty comfortable. Definitely feels very well made and sturdy. I would recommend it, especially if you are looking for a primarily single point system. From what I've heard it works as a 2 point, but it's not ideal. Which makes sense because it was designed to be a 1 pt with 2 pt capability as and added bonus. Can't make any good comparisons as the only other AR sling I've used was a simple 2 point web sling that was included with a gun. |
+1 to the above. I really like how it transitions from 1- to 2-point and cinches up tight against the body. However, cinching it up with one hand in 2-point mode is a bit tricky; perhaps I just need to play around with it more (the sling, that is  ).
Btw, I got mine from machineguntours. They are an industry sponsor (check the industry section for a link). I got one in FDE and it was something like $51 with free shipping. They are g2g. |
| i have one and i like it. i got it from PalmettoStateArmory but i found out a local shop has it for the same price. anyway, it tightens and loosens very easliy using 1 hand if needed. can be used in single point and two point (i'm currently using it in 2 pt). very versatile. i just wish it was padded like the Vickers. |
| Versatile sling. I modified mine. I took the rear quick release off and put a QD swivel on. Then I took off the large/heavy alligator clip off and put the quick release on the front of the sling. It works because I have a Noveske QD endplate and a CTR stock with QD socket. I can still go from a 1 or 2 point and it's much lighter without the alligator clip. |
| I have an opposite opinion. I had a three point Blackhawk Swift sling which I liked except for the cumbersome attachment at the front of the handguard. Picked up one of these locall and put it on. Very heavy on your strong arm shoulder. I don't have alot of crap on my rifle either. If you walk w/o holding the rifle it bangs ur knees. If u would ever need to bend down the barrel would go directly to the ground. I messed with it some, trying to have it hang at an angle. Not much luck yet. When transitioned to a two point, it is still not very comftorable. I might try implementing a two point connection somewhere other than in front of the handguard. I wanted it to work really bad.....but no luck yet. Wish I could find a two or three point similar to the Blackhawk Swift which connected differently in front of the handguard. I will keep messing with it and see if I can get the Magpul to work. Their products are great, from my experience so far, in exception to this sling. |
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Any reasons why it doesn't work so well as a 2 point, too short or ?.., i was thinking about getting this sling to use primarily as a 2 point. I just have a hard time tightening the sling (i.e., bringing it in close to my body) with one hand. I will spend more time with it to see if I can get it to work more smoothly. It's very easy to make longer, though, such as when it's cinched against your body and you need to extend the sling to draw the gun. I find the VCAS to be much easier when tightening the sling against the body (of course, I have a padded one and I can't get it as tight against my body as the MS2). Other than that one issue, I really like the sling. The alligator clip easily grasps onto my side sling swivel on my FSB. I love the material and it feels very sturdy. ETA: I spent a little extra time with the sling. I find that if I don't have my left arm (I'm a righty) through the sling when in 2-point mode (i.e., just wrapped around my neck) it is much easier to adjust the sling's tightness with just one hand. YMMV. |
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I have an opposite opinion. I had a three point Blackhawk Swift sling which I liked except for the cumbersome attachment at the front of the handguard. Picked up one of these locall and put it on. Very heavy on your strong arm shoulder. I don't have alot of crap on my rifle either. If you walk w/o holding the rifle it bangs ur knees. If u would ever need to bend down the barrel would go directly to the ground. I messed with it some, trying to have it hang at an angle. Not much luck yet. When transitioned to a two point, it is still not very comftorable. I might try implementing a two point connection somewhere other than in front of the handguard. I wanted it to work really bad.....but no luck yet. Wish I could find a two or three point similar to the Blackhawk Swift which connected differently in front of the handguard. I will keep messing with it and see if I can get the Magpul to work. Their products are great, from my experience so far, in exception to this sling. Are you sure you don't have it too loose in 1 pt mode? I can walk with mine with it in 1 pt and it doesn't bang my knees or anything. How long is the barrel on your rifle? Mine is 16 including the FH. I had mine cinched up reasonably tight so it didn't hang down that far, definitely no where near my knees. |
| I bought one of these and I like it so far. The material is soft yet sturdy which is a big plus since it isn't padded. I don't use the ASAP but I've got an endplate with a side loop that it works fine with. I haven't experimented a lot with the sling adjustment and maybe I'm not skilled enough on a tactical level to discern minute differences between different slings. I've got a Vickers 2 pt. on my LMT and I like that one, too. I like that I can transition from 1 to 2 point with the Magpul. I've no complaints about it yet. |
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I don't like it as a 2 point sling when compared to a Vickers. The sling material is too soft and gets stuck in the slide when I adjust the length for shoulder transitions. The stiffer material of the standard Vickers sling doesn't get stuck during adjustments. Also, the "lockjaw" hook is large and doesn't fit small hook loops well, causing it to come loose.
I like it as a 1point sling though, which I think is the main usage that it was designed for. |
| I've tried it twice (bought one - sold it... bought another and sold it). I've found that the only real benefit to a single point sling is the ability to transition shoulders. This sling is well made and if you want a single point setup, there are none better. For my money, I'll take the Vickers sling any day. |
| I was thinking about this the other day while I was messing with mine after I put on my GG&G Sling Thing. I think you guys that are comparing it to the Vickers and saying it's a crappy 2 point sling are looking about it the wrong way. The MS2 wasn't designed to be a 2 point the same way the Vickers was. The Vickers is supposed to be a 2 point sling when used in combat, the MS2 was designed to be used as a single point in combat. The 2 point ability is there for other reasons. If you watch the youtube vid from MilSpecMonkey where Costa talks about the MS2, when he talks about the 2 point capability he talks about from the point of view of needing to go "hands on" with something and needing to get the rifle out of the way. In that case you can quickly change to 2 point and let it hang, or flip it around on your back. When you need to go back into some kind of action, it should be returned to 1 point mode. If you look at it that way, it seems to me that it's a very capable 1 point sling. So basically, if you want a 2 point sling, buy something else. If you want a single point that gives you some extra options for carrying your weapon should the situation dictate the need, buy the MS2. |
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I like it as a single point, and as a 2-point, but as designed, only for getting the gun out of the way.
The material is a little too soft, which causes it to bind and double over when adjusting it, and it could stand to be 1/4" wider, especially when using a heavier gun. I've used lots of sling in the past, and for an AR15, I like it the best. |
| I have the MOE handguard and only the under the barrel swivel. The aligator clip does not get along with this setup. The sling isn't easy to tighten up as a 2 point either. I didn't like the material it's made of. I have the asp rear swivel, and as a single point sling it seems to work well, but I'm still going to try something different. |
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Versatile sling. I modified mine. I took the rear quick release off and put a QD swivel on. Then I took off the large/heavy alligator clip off and put the quick release on the front of the sling. It works because I have a Noveske QD endplate and a CTR stock with QD socket. I can still go from a 1 or 2 point and it's much lighter without the alligator clip. Can you post pictures of your modified sling? |
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I received my MS2 today. This is my first tactical sling. I've had plenty of hunting slings. So, i really don't have anything tactical to compare it to. I did find it easy to clip, easy to go to and from 1 and 2 point. I also found it easy enough to adjust.
Overall i am quite happy with it. |
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Versatile sling. I modified mine. I took the rear quick release off and put a QD swivel on. Then I took off the large/heavy alligator clip off and put the quick release on the front of the sling. It works because I have a Noveske QD endplate and a CTR stock with QD socket. I can still go from a 1 or 2 point and it's much lighter without the alligator clip. Can you post pictures of your modified sling? 
Someone else posted about putting the QD on. I took it further and replaced the alligator clip/lock jaw with the quick release that came with the sling.. |
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