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8/26/2004 8:15:26 PM EDT
HAS ANY GOT A VLTOR STOCK.  IF SO HOW DO YOU LIKE IT?  I HAVE A DISSIPATOR AND I'M THINKING I WOULD LIKE ONE.  DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE TO GO WITH.  I MAY STAY WITH THE RIFLE LENGTH, BUT IF I DID THAT THEN THE ONLY BENEFITS OF SWITCHING ARE WEIGHT, AND A SIDE SLING MOUNT (LOOKS BAD ASS).  I ALSO WANT TO GO WITH A "MOUT" SINGLE POINT SLING AS WELL.
CAN YOU GUYS GIVE ME YOUR INPUT, AND LET ME KNOW WHERE TO GET THE BEST DEALS PLEASE.
8/26/2004 8:46:36 PM EDT
[#1]
.Vltors are an excellent product!  I love all of mine.   You won't be dissapointed.

Rifle length or not?  up to your personal preference and end use

Single point sling set ups are all the rage for good reason.  Giles Wilderness

Best deals?  I'm sure some dealers on the board will let ya know.  

good luck



8/26/2004 8:52:04 PM EDT
[#2]
OUTSTANDING GEAR
8/27/2004 3:50:32 AM EDT
[#3]
I love my VLTOR Clubfoot.  You can't go wrong with any of them though.  I use a CQB Solutions HST (now Spector Gear) single point sling on mine.  All the dealers on this board sell them for pretty much the same price.  I buy all my stuff from JTAC Supply who is a board member so you can check that link or go to the industry section.  He had just about every VLTOR the other day when I got mine so he should have what you want.
8/27/2004 12:37:18 PM EDT
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OUTSTANDING GEAR



WORD
8/27/2004 5:42:56 PM EDT
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WHAT IS THE WEB ADDRESS FOR GILES WILDERNESS?
8/27/2004 5:51:47 PM EDT
[#6]
Daniel Boone needs to visit this thread
8/27/2004 7:28:41 PM EDT
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Quoted:
WHAT IS THE WEB ADDRESS FOR GILES WILDERNESS?




www.spectergear.com
8/27/2004 7:52:55 PM EDT
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Quoted:
WHAT IS THE WEB ADDRESS FOR GILES WILDERNESS?



www.thewilderness.com/
8/27/2004 8:17:21 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
WHAT IS THE WEB ADDRESS FOR GILES WILDERNESS?

The Wilderness Sling Page
8/27/2004 8:28:30 PM EDT
[#10]
What???...... I thought I had all the same stuff Monty did.  Crap now I gotta get a wildeness sling too.....  
8/30/2004 3:37:24 PM EDT
[#11]
I have an Vltor on my AR and two more ready to go for after 9/13. Great stock! Ditto on the wilderness single point. The 1 1/4" material is a little more comfortable than 1" and pretty tuff too. Good luck
8/30/2004 4:01:18 PM EDT
[#12]
Hi DBAR,

The main benefit of going to the VLTOR modstock is the improved cheek weld that it offers you.  It is a performance improvement that can affect your shooting positively.  The rifle length VLTOR stocks have a QD attachment close enough to the receiver that it would work well with a Single-point sling without having to purchase a receiver end plate.  

What a lot of folks dont realize is that you can mount a rifle Modstock onto a mil-spec collapsible stock tube.  It has a locking piece that locks the rifle stock in place- so if you install a mil-spec collapsible tube with a collapsible stock kit, you can switch rifle and carbine Modstocks with ease to suit your needs.  We are one of several dealers that carry VLTOR products on the board at minimum advertised pricing.  Our deal is that we usually have all the styles and colors in stock ready for immediate shipment ($5 flat fee), and anyone that orders Modstocks with tubes and collapsible stock kits gets a free spanner wrench to complete the install.  

As for single-point slings, we are a very biased "+1" for the CQB/Spectre MOUT b/c we sell them and use them all the time!  The main advantage is that the emergency release buckle is not part of the loop that encircles your torso, so the sling loop stays with you, and a little attachment stays with the gun.  This way you can clip your gun on and off with ease during training, and in an "emergency" the sling cant snag on anything as it unwraps.  

That's our $.02..  You wont regret a VLTOR purchase!

Joe
9/1/2004 8:04:02 PM EDT
[#13]
I've decided to go with  a Vltor stock, just made arrangements with  thetacticalsolution.com ,Michael is a nice guy to do business with.
www.thetacticalsolution.com/beta/docs/ar15_m16_accessories.htm
Here a picture, that I'd  borrowed off the net.



What stock are you going with after Sept 13th?

I  will do a review on the vltor stock once it get here.

TG
9/1/2004 8:07:05 PM EDT
[#14]
Doesnt fit me. I will get the magpul.
9/2/2004 3:28:33 PM EDT
[#15]
Hey all!

Package from Bravo Company arrived today, as expected, bearing my VLTOR stock kit. Opened it up and test-fit it to my 9mm AR lower that's being registered as an SBR
The assembly pictured has no barrel and is incapable of firing, so it's not a "semi-automatic assault weapon" as defined; no need to call the Fun Police on me.  

Now all I need is for the AWB to die its rightful death (so a collapsing stock will be legal on the completed gun), and the BATFE to ***approve my f*cking Form 1***   (pending + 4.5 months now)  

Some quick notes on the VLTOR, for those who have expressed interest:

1) Bravo Company's "buy a VLTOR stock kit and get a free H-buffer" promo translates to "get an H-buffer plus the standard buffer that comes in the kit", which was pretty cool. Now I have an extra carbine buffer laying around; guess I'll have to build a gun to house it.  

2) The mil-spec VLTOR tube has 5 positions, where the commercial RRA/Bushmaster tube has 6.  Fully extended, the VLTOR stock appears to be about 1/2" shorter than the RRA.

3) The VLTOR stock fits snugly on the tube, but is not entirely rattle-free. It is better than the RRA in this regard - which is saying something, since the RRA is already better than the older CAR-type stocks.

4) I'm in the minority, but I prefer the shorter accessory tubes.  There is no noticeable difference in cheek weld between the short and long tubes (assuming you mount the short tubes all the way forward), and the short tubes allow a tighter, more secure attachment of my CQB sling webbing (the web loop attaches around the stock in the conventional manner, rather than having to go all the way around the accessory tubes).

5) Speaking of cheek weld - the VLTOR does offer more comfort in this area, compared the standard M4 stock. It's not any different on the top, but the flared accessory tube provides support to the lower part of the cheek & jaw. It's nice, but it's not the vast improvement some claim, at least as far as this face can tell.

6) VLTOR has redesigned the accessory tube caps to make them much easier to remove. The older caps that came with the short tubes I bought were a b*tch to get out, so I put them in the back of the tubes where they're not going to be used. You'd still be hard-pressed to remove the caps (and not lose them) under stress, so don't keep anything of "need it right now" importance in the storage tubes.

So there you have it. The VLTOR stock is an improvement over the "ribbed" M4 pattern, but is an evolutionary step rather than a quantum leap.  It definitely scores Cool Guy Points and has some nice features, but how much storage space does one need on a rifle (I already have cavities in my pistol grip and VFG for batteries and parts), and is it worth the extra $$ ? That's something each potential buyer will have to decide for himself.  

Am I keeping mine?  Like, duh!  Am I going to buy another one?  I'll need to get some actual live fire with it before I make that decision.

9/3/2004 7:30:55 PM EDT
[#16]
I THOUGHT THAT THE VLTOR HAD TO USE A COLT BUFFER TUBE, OR THE VLTOR TUBE.  I'VE FOUND THAT THIS MEANS AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE THAT ONE WILL COST ME JUST UNDER $200.00.  THAT'S ALOT OF MONEY TO ME.  I'M JUST A BIT TIGHT WITH MY HARD EARNED MONEY.  I WANT ONE!  THIS I KNOW!  AFFORDABILITY?  THAT IS THE BIG QUESTION.  BRAVO COMPANY?  I'LL CK THEM OUT KNOW!
9/4/2004 10:44:38 AM EDT
[#17]
I have the Carbine stock.  Ilove it.  I like the cheek weld better and the battery storage is a good feature.
9/4/2004 6:04:16 PM EDT
[#18]
With the functional improvements you get with the Vltor Modstock, freeing up the little bit more extra cash to purchase a Vltor setup over a standard stock setup is worth it for many people.  With the new Basic kits that are out, you can get into a full setup with tube and guts for around $150.  

The improved cheek weld alone is a benefit makes it more comfortable to shoot, which can increase your accuracy potential.  One dramatic demonstration of the improved cheek weld can be seen with one-hand shooting drills with the Vltor versus the Standard stock.  There are some products out there where you get what you pay for, and the Vltor Modstock is one of them.  We've heard a lot of good things about Bravo Company- it's good to be among reputable dealers here on ARF.com
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