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Originally Posted By theguymontag: @Luny421 Did you ever receive your 2-12? @theguymontag I did, but I haven’t messed with it much, I started a new job and have been traveling back and forth to Tampa the last few weeks. On top of that, we’ve had rain for 15 of 19 days this month. I’m hoping travel slows down and weather clears up so I can get out to the range. |
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Originally Posted By Luny421: @theguymontag I did, but I haven’t messed with it much, I started a new job and have been traveling back and forth to Tampa the last few weeks. On top of that, we’ve had rain for 15 of 19 days this month. I’m hoping travel slows down and weather clears up so I can get out to the range. First impressions? The 2-12 is on my short list to add to my never-ending Vector optics collection. |
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Originally Posted By Joedirt199: I am interested in the new 2-12 with the eotech style reticle with only the center dot and outer ring illuminated. I just...can't bring myself to buy a Chinese scope for my Mock12, but the 2-12 is the closest I've come in awhile. Plus PRI don't sell a RMR mount for their 34mm rings. |
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Originally Posted By Luny421: @theguymontag I did, but I haven’t messed with it much, I started a new job and have been traveling back and forth to Tampa the last few weeks. On top of that, we’ve had rain for 15 of 19 days this month. I’m hoping travel slows down and weather clears up so I can get out to the range. I know what you mean - sometimes life happens. Good luck with the new job. I wasn’t too interested in the LPVOs from Vector but the Continental 1-8 made it to one of C_Does top budget recommendations, and he said it was better than their 1-6. For a 2-12 I might just buy an Athlon Helos as a “safe” bet. |
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C_DOES posted a 1-6 LPVO roundup a few weeks ago I just got around to watching. Even with a negative for the eyebox tightness, the 1-6 was still in his "Top 4" and he recommended the 1-8 over the 1-6 which IMO is obvious for the extra mag but also apparently the eyebox is slightly better as well. I agree about the tight eyebox (above 1x) and my only additional comment would be that the Continental 1-6 (and prob 1-8) are able to be used like an ACOG using the BAC method which many LPVO's cannot. So to me, the tight eyebox at 3-6x is a moot point since I'm probably static using those mag ranges - and anything under that I have a good enough eyebox or using the BAC method. And, it was obvious in the video, that Vector's fiber dot was the brightest of all the review samples he had on hand for the video. He also fumbled the clarity of the vector for the video review (but admitted it in the audio) because he didnt adjust the eyepiece perfectly as he did the others - but it was still very very good vs the others. ![]() Low Budget SFP LPVO Comparison - Sub $500 SFP 1-6x24 |
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Originally Posted By the-answer-is-42: First impressions? The 2-12 is on my short list to add to my never-ending Vector optics collection. Compared directly to my H6Xi 2-12, the Vector is ~1” longer and 4+oz heavier. The glass on the Vector is really good for the price, but it’s nowhere near the Steiner. But at roughly 1/3 the price I can’t complain. At 2x, I much prefer the SCFF-69 reticle over the Steiner MIL-STR. The Vector reticle is much easier to pick up and easier to use at low magnification. At 12x I prefer the Steiner reticle. The illumination on the Vector is good and is absolutely usable in broad daylight but it’s not as bright as the Steiner. I also like the turrets on the Vector, very crisp and audible. The turrets are my biggest complaint about the H6Xi, the fact that they are not locking is ridiculous considering the price. I ended up swapping to the capped elevation turret due to the lack of a locking feature. I’m hoping to find time (and decent weather) to get to the range in the next few weeks. I’ll report back once I’ve actually got some rounds on it. |
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I received the Vector Paragon 3X magnifier today (SCMF-33). First impressions are very good. As a connoisseur of budget optics over the years - I've had a few 3X magnifiers from the likes of PA and etc. This Paragon is leagues above those. The glass on this is fantastic for the price. It has exposed adjustment turrets for easy centering of the RDS, as well. I can only assume its the same glass as the Paragon 3X Prism I did an overview of in the OP. It comes with a FTS mount which is surprisingly robust for the price point as well. It feels just as good as any OEM FTS mount from brands that cost $300+ and could probably easily sell for $50 by itself. It is a push-button FTS and not a 'over-tension' or whatever style those other ones are - which means its quite secure when in line with the RDS, but a little wobbly if you violently shake it when on the side. One other thing of note which I took a photo of is that the body uses helicoils instead of being threaded directly which IMO is a plus. I caught this on sale + the 20% off code which made it about $119 shipped making it the cheapest quality magnifier I could find on the net as the Holosun was $200, PA 3X SLx is $179, and Vortex is over $200. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Luny421: Compared directly to my H6Xi 2-12, the Vector is ~1” longer and 4+oz heavier. The glass on the Vector is really good for the price, but it’s nowhere near the Steiner. But at roughly 1/3 the price I can’t complain. At 2x, I much prefer the SCFF-69 reticle over the Steiner MIL-STR. The Vector reticle is much easier to pick up and easier to use at low magnification. At 12x I prefer the Steiner reticle. The illumination on the Vector is good and is absolutely usable in broad daylight but it’s not as bright as the Steiner. I also like the turrets on the Vector, very crisp and audible. The turrets are my biggest complaint about the H6Xi, the fact that they are not locking is ridiculous considering the price. I ended up swapping to the capped elevation turret due to the lack of a locking feature. I’m hoping to find time (and decent weather) to get to the range in the next few weeks. I’ll report back once I’ve actually got some rounds on it. Any news/review yet? I haven’t purchased the 2-10 yet but I also see they released some new models in the Tauron line one level down that have ED glass so now I’m trying to see which would be better for the price. |
| I've been using my Continenal 2-12 for a bit and really like it. For some reason, i'm able to get a clearer picture than with other scopes like Vortex or NF. I really like the turrets, it has by far the easiest to set zero-stop i've used and clicks and very audible and tactile. I even purchased the Continental 3-18 FFP to try out. Very similar to the 2-12 but with more magnification obviously. Having said that, more that what I currently need so I put it on the EE. |
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Originally Posted By the-answer-is-42: Vector is the OEM, looks like Ohhunt may be contracting with them. My question would be what they down-spec'd to meet that price point. Looks like the 1x prism uses a slightly larger form factor. Still looks compact/uses T1 mounts though. Speaking of mounts, the Ohhunt ones are pretty good. No real experience with their optics however. I might give it a try and report back. Didn't mean to derail. |
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Originally Posted By the-answer-is-42: I think I need help, I can't stop buying stuff The 20% off + sale is getting me big time. I wanted to try a 3X mag with my red dots. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/226579/Screenshot_2025-06-18_at_2_23_42%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%C2%AFPM-3566903.png Quoting my own post since I'm talking to myself in here ![]() Have been really enjoying the Paragon 3X magnifier. Very clear and very good glass for the price and uses the same magnifier mounting pattern as the Eotech. Shown below using a Vortex VMX flip to side tension QD mount. ![]() Heres a group from today @50yds on the bottom two w/ M193 and @100yds in the middle with 77g HPBT. 10 shot groups with a quick rate of fire. Not going for precision but just seeing how many and how accurate in quick succession. The 3X mag really helps! ![]() |
Also just saw this new 2-12 review in the 2-12 thread in the other optics subforum. I still havent bought one ![]() Vector Continental 2-12 - Budget Priced Powerhouse? - what is going on here |
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Here is my review of the 2-12 for those interested: Vector 2-12
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Huh, never knew this company existed. Now i'm suddenly looking at their 1-8x24 ffp rar constantine scff-60 on sale for $234... Edit: just found some videos for it, anyone want to talk me out of one? ![]() Constantine 1-8x24 RAR Looks like a poor (gun law wise) californian did one too ![]() Vector Optics Constantine 1-8x24 FFP LPVO *Not a firearm* |
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Originally Posted By HobbitHunter: Huh, never knew this company existed. Now i'm suddenly looking at their 1-8x24 ffp rar constantine scff-60 on sale for $234... Edit: just found some videos for it, anyone want to talk me out of one? Looks like a poor (gun law wise) californian did one too IIRC coupon code Spin20% still works as well to stack discounts. |
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Originally Posted By the-answer-is-42: I believe its the hunting version of the Tauron line (capped turrets) and some other small changes? I have a review of the 1-6 FFP Tauron a page or so back in this thread and its a fantastic budget FFP scope for the price. Also IIRC coupon code Spin20% still works as well to stack discounts. Saw it on amazon and they had an instant 35% off coupon available so i bought one last night for $234 after coupon but before tax. Should be here ina couple days. |
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Originally Posted By HobbitHunter: Got the vector constantine 1-8x24 scff-60 ffp rar reticle. Random schmuck review: I am damned impressed for what i paid. Glass is damned nice and clear. Love the reticle. Max brightness is daylight discernable, but that's not a priority for me, especially with this reticle. There is some fisheye at 1x inside 15yds. Seems to stem from 1x being slighlty less than 1x, because i can bump up the magnification a smidge and readjust the diopter to nearly completely remove it. Doipter rotates nicely with no wiggle. Illumination knob is nice and forcefull in it's detent presets. No off between brightness levels in case someone's still not watched or read that yet, which is not a concern of mine since in daylight i'll spinal tap straight to 11 and at night i work my way up from 1 to not blow out my pupils. Box comes with optic and pre-installed flip caps (think butler creek but these flip open flatter and have slightly stiffer collars), cleaning cloth in beer cozy bag with carabiner, quick throw lever, some 30mm picatinny rings in a box that i haven't even bothered to take out of the main box, and one slot that was empty and I'm assuming was supposed to be for a cr2032 since there wasn't one installed. The counterclockwise magnification is definately going to take some getting used to, but i get why they reversed it and the motion is nice and smooth with good resistance. I wish the quick throw lever was more of a paddle than a post, but not complaining since it even came with one for the price i paid. Craptacular pics by random schmuck: https://i.postimg.cc/d1gtp74K/20250928-160605.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/D0syT2Mh/20250928-160624.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Dfbzsgyg/20250928-160907.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/dQT0dBtj/20250928-160928.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/MZjGRDKY/20250928-160934.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/bY2vbTN6/20250928-161043.jpg Terrible reticle pic attempts https://i.postimg.cc/66GQR05D/20250928-161201.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/2jB5vwSf/20250928-161358.jpg I cannot get a pic of 8x, sorry. Edit to add, pics of the reticle are fuggin hard, even after a beer to calm the hands... Hope this helps. Edit again, range trip to follow soon™ Awesome! Thanks for being the first user to finally follow through with a review and pics besides me so far ![]() I agree the glass - even on the non-continental models and non-german-glass-models - is very good for the price. I'm convinced it might still be 'german' just lesser tiers of it from the same factory they have a partnership with. |
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Originally Posted By Capt_Destro: Looks like the 1x prism uses a slightly larger form factor. Still looks compact/uses T1 mounts though. Speaking of mounts, the Ohhunt ones are pretty good. No real experience with their optics however. I might give it a try and report back. Didn't mean to derail. I’ll snap pictures of the Ohhunt prism I got in a trying to help a buddy trade later. After the first mag it looked like a bomb went off inside it. ETA: Here’s after the first round. It got worse but I didn’t take any others. Still have it sitting on a throw away AR so will post the full destruction later. That’s debris on the inside of the ocular lens. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: I’ll snap pictures of the Ohhunt prism I got in a trying to help a buddy trade later. After the first mag it looked like a bomb went off inside it. ETA: Here’s after the first round. It got worse but I didn’t take any others. Still have it sitting on a throw away AR so will post the full destruction later. That’s debris on the inside of the ocular lens. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61399/IMG_3568_jpeg-3632616.JPG Yeah the ohhunt stuff is the embodiment of when everyone says amazon-junk. Theres a reason its cheap. |
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Originally Posted By the-answer-is-42: Awesome! Thanks for being the first user to finally follow through with a review and pics besides me so far ![]() I agree the glass - even on the non-continental models and non-german-glass-models - is very good for the price. I'm convinced it might still be 'german' just lesser tiers of it from the same factory they have a partnership with. Hey no sweat, figured it's only fair since this site and thread put me onto it. Also, dicked around with it again with my contacts in instead of my coke bottle bottom birth control glasses and the fisheye at 1x is far less prominant now, also only within like 15ft, not yards. I'll edit my above review to reflect that. Range trip still coming up, but i'm warning everyone now, I'm not rich, or rolling deep in youtube review freebees, so i'm not going to be doing any crazy destructive testing. |
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Originally Posted By HobbitHunter: Random schmuck range trip report for vector optics 1-8x24 ffp rar reticle scff-60. All pics and commentary are presented by a random schmuck with a half assed ability to shoot away from himself and crudely use a cell phone. Edit to add, even though i selected do not resize image on the pic hosting site when uploading, the pics are still not as clear as they are on my phone. I can make out the 750yd marker in the 8x reticle pics just fine on my phone, but they are fuzzy once hosted. It was a beautiful day at the range with weather turning from overcast and gusty windy as hell to flat out downpour. Perfect. Also, no range trip is complete without forgetting something, and i forgot my wiebad rear bag... https://i.postimg.cc/SRK3zHcb/20251002-095250.jpg Ammo and barrel used were pmc xtac m855 through a spike's tactical 16" optimal barrel. Total round count for the day is 150rds. All paper target shooting was done at 50yds. I zero everything at 50yds. It just works and is what i do. Initial zeroing and then fine tuning https://i.postimg.cc/k4NRtpqy/20251002-102023.jpg I worked my way up from bottom middle, then fine tuned with bottom right. I have absolutely no idea where that 21st shot far right middle came from. There's only 20rds in a box and no one was near me, yet somehow there's 21 rounds through the target. Turrets are tactile and audible. No weird adjustments within clicks due to mushiness. Glass is still damned nice. Really damned nice. The rain begins. https://i.postimg.cc/K8yX0p2X/20251002-102334.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/DZGHQ1Mg/20251002-095333.jpg Bdc reticle lines up with trajectory close enough to make gong hits from 300 and 400yds easily out to 500yds barring wind. Didn't try past 500 because of wind and inability to hear impacts. Will remedy that on a better day. Rain gets worse https://i.postimg.cc/brcX4mtM/20251002-105014.jpg Finally capture 8x magnification. https://i.postimg.cc/br8CQWb8/20251002-125652.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/bYHFzYXK/20251002-125700.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/KcrsZcX6/20251002-125740.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/bYHFzYcX/20251002-125743.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/QNknXNGG/20251002-125745.jpg Progressive's got nothing on me becoming my dad. Speed round, as soon as reticle looks like it's in the middle, pull trigger. https://i.postimg.cc/d1JrnYWT/Screenshot-20251002-145901-Gallery.jpg More rain. https://i.postimg.cc/bN4nWbCQ/20251002-130445.jpg Bonus pics without rear cap to show full ocular end view, reticle brightness better and slight fisheye inside 15ft https://i.postimg.cc/d10DLtHx/20251002-163550.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/gJ0rnkt9/20251002-163601.jpg Final thoughts, i'm buying buying another. If there's anything else someone wants to know, hit me up. Hope this helps. Great follow up. Thanks for the additional pics. |
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Originally Posted By Joedirt199: SCFF-69 reticle https://vector2007.com/products/continental-x6-2-12x44-mpvo-rifle-scope?variant=50048142180649 . I am intrigued by their 3-18x as well as I like that reticle too. C_DOES has one as he mentioned it in the Bushnell 3-18x review he just published.
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Originally Posted By spyderboy03: The SCFF-67 and SCFF-69 reticles are just calling my name too much so I ordered an SCFF-69 yesterday. Received a tracking number just now. I'll compare it to a Vortex Viper PST Gen 2 3-15x, Leupold MK4HD 2.5-10x, and Leupold MK5HD 3.6-18x. If I like it enough it will replace the brand new MK4HD on my 12" 6 ARC . I am intrigued by their 3-18x as well as I like that reticle too. C_DOES has one as he mentioned it in the Bushnell 3-18x review he just published.Vector is the OEM for LOTS of American companies who people love from your basic red dot companies to huge big names like Bushnell. With Vector's push to take 'chinese brand' share from Holosun and others recently - it's become apparent as theyve let certain things slip and have released designs that are extremely similar to what they've offered to the OEMs. People would be surprised to find their $1000 scope for $500 on the Vector website...or maybe they wouldnt, idk. Hence the reason I've been buying so much from them recently. |
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Received the scope today. My Reptilia mount for it was supposed to be here today, but it's looking like tomorrow or Monday now. I tried to compare it mostly on 10x against my MK4HD. The MK4 was easier to get a good view through due to it being mounted. I only looked at trees and houses around 2-300 yards from my house (the mountain 11-12 miles away looked the same through each). As long as I dialed the parallax adjustment on the Vector, it was really hard for me to tell a difference between the two. The MK4 does an incredible job of focusing with no parallax, especially at that distance. Anything under 30 ish yards doesn't focus though, and the Vector focuses nicely down to the 10 or so yards I tried. I definitely like the reticle of the Vector better. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By spyderboy03: Received the scope today. My Reptilia mount for it was supposed to be here today, but it's looking like tomorrow or Monday now. I tried to compare it mostly on 10x against my MK4HD. The MK4 was easier to get a good view through due to it being mounted. I only looked at trees and houses around 2-300 yards from my house (the mountain 11-12 miles away looked the same through each). As long as I dialed the parallax adjustment on the Vector, it was really hard for me to tell a difference between the two. The MK4 does an incredible job of focusing with no parallax, especially at that distance. Anything under 30 ish yards doesn't focus though, and the Vector focuses nicely down to the 10 or so yards I tried. I definitely like the reticle of the Vector better. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/57550/1000005822_jpg-3647060.JPG I’d love to hear more about this. How is the CA compared to the mark4? Any clarity issues ? I’m wanting to either get the vector or mk4 @spyderboy03 |
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Originally Posted By RandyLahey01:I'd love to hear more about this. How is the CA compared to the mark4? Any clarity issues ? I'm wanting to either get the vector or mk4 @spyderboy03 I didn't notice a difference today. My mount made it to the USPS facility 2 hours away which means it should deliver tomorrow. I'll try to compare them tomorrow. I've got a handgun class next weekend and I know that range has plenty of places I can pick out objects to look at from 25-1500 yards and further. I'm tempted to take 4 rifles and compare the 4 scopes. I'll update the thread for sure. |
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Originally Posted By RandyLahey01: Thank you very much. I would appreciate that. I mounted the Vector on my 12.5" 5.56 so I could kneel in 1 position and swap the rifles back and forth. I did this off of my deck with the rifles rested on the railing. There are some tall bushes/thin trees that have lost their leaves (but have berries) between me and where I was looking. The roof I was looking at is right at 190-200 meters per google maps. The roof is a light reddish brown color. The background is evergreen trees that are roughly 617 meters away per google maps. The roof has a thin white pole off the peak with a white box that appears to be a weather station. There are also power lines on the other side in front of the trees. It's fairly cloudy here today, but the sun did come out some. The only places I could detect chromatic aberration were the white pole/weather station and the power lines as they appeared bright/shiny. Both scopes had a bit of purple fringing on both of those things. It was REALLY hard for me to tell the difference between the 2. On 10x, I might give Vector the edge. 12x increased it slightly, but no more than the MK4HD. As far as clarity/clearness of the glass, this is also tough. The MK4HD not having a parallax is just mind boggling. I could focus on the branches/berries that are 40 meters away and the 200m weather station seemingly at the same time. It gave this allusion that the MK4HD was clearer as there was no adjusting and whatever my eye looked at was in focus. However, if I adjusted the parallax on the Vector to each thing I was looking at, it seemed equally as clear. I really like the extra 2x and the reticle the Vector offers. Since this is for my 12.5" 6 ARC, I will dial if I have the time, but having the tree to make shots more quickly is a positive. The only downside to this reticle is it doesn't have any intermediate subtension marks between the mil marks. My MK4HD is the non-illuminated TMR, so the lines aren't as thick as the illuminated version, but the .1 mil lines go to the center with a .1 mil hole in lieu of a .1 mil (or similar) dot in the middle with .5 mils of space before the lines start. The reticle seems useable to 5 mils, but it gets twice as thick there and loses the .5 mil subtensions. At 10 mils it is crazy thick and not useable for a holdover. The 800 yard holdover on a 12.5" 6 ARC is around 9.8 mils. I will definitely be dialing for anything beyond 500 yards if I keep this scope. I can't keep both right now, so one has to go. I am really torn. My snootiness and desire for nice things wants to keep the MK4HD due to being twice as expensive and perception that it is better partially due to cost. However, my eyes can't tell the difference so far to 600 yards. Attached File |
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@spyderboy03 Thank you so much for the write up and detail. I’ve heard great things about the vector and I can understand your desire to keep the leupold because of the name (although the leupold look better imo). I guess I’ll have to try the vector out. I was looking for something a little higher mag than the 1-6 razor I have on one right now. |
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Originally Posted By RandyLahey01: @spyderboy03 Thank you so much for the write up and detail. I've heard great things about the vector and I can understand your desire to keep the leupold because of the name (although the leupold look better imo). I guess I'll have to try the vector out. I was looking for something a little higher mag than the 1-6 razor I have on one right now. |
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Originally Posted By HobbitHunter: Lookin pretty hard at their continental 4-24x56 ffp scopes atm. Hmm... |
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Originally Posted By goer001: Same here, I just don't know how dark it will get at max magnification. I know light always gets low on almost all optics at higher magnification, but some are much worse than others. Wish I could get hands on before committing Also I found RTT12 code for 12% off on vertor2007 site. |
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Originally Posted By goer001: Same here, I just don't know how dark it will get at max magnification. I know light always gets low on almost all optics at higher magnification, but some are much worse than others. Wish I could get hands on before committing Also I found RTT12 code for 12% off on vertor2007 site. What's holding me back is that i already have a pst gen 2 5-25x50 that works. I am just sick and tired of the turrets. They don't lock, there's no way to cap them, and setting the zero stop is miserably tedious. So it's pretty much used as a range baby, and i'm over it. It's got a 8-2.3mm exit pupil versus the pst 2's 10-2mm*, plus the schott glass, and based on my experience with their mid level at best constantine 1-8x24, i'm willing to bet it's still bright at max mag. * (allegedly, cannot find absolute confirmation, only basic math ((50mm objective divided by min and max magnifications)) kinda backed by some websites listing 10-2mm as the exit pupil) |
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Originally Posted By spyderboy03: Spin20% gets 20% off. Worked for me 9 days ago. You sir, are an evil enabler and lucky that i had to deal with my pst 2's turrets being off again thanks to safe and transport wars.... (a few beers may or may not have been a contributing factor) Continental 4-24x56 scff-29 and throw lever ordered. BUT, the deal was I have to wait until christmas to open it. We shall see... Edit, almost forgot, Spin20% still works as of 5 minutes ago. |
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