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Posted: 9/15/2017 1:56:43 PM EDT
I'm halfway kicking around putting a red dot on one of my rifles, but I'd like to have some sort of BDC on it.
What are my options? What have you guys used & liked? |
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Had this on one of my AKs, it's a good reticle, but if you have any kind of astigmatism, your eyes may have issues acquiring a clear picture.
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Also you have a magnifier right? Hard to pick up the dots without one
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Holosun 503g with 3x magnifier is what i have and like very much. very crisp when under 3x.
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Long time lurker and I know I have very little clout here due to post history, but +1 on the Holosun ACSS.
I just got one and it's GTG. If you got some time check out the torture tests. That's what sold me. |
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You might also look at what Sig Arms has coming out in their Electro-Optics line.
They have some very interesting items in the Romeo 4, 5, & 6 lines. Several reticle choices with outstanding battery life. And several also have alternative power options like solar and now a capacitor battery/storage feature. https://www.sigsauer.com/products/electro-optics/ https://www.sigsauer.com/store/electro-optics.html?product_sub_category=766%2C765 https://youtu.be/PJ78hecTcdU |
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I saw that one, but I'm not a fan of the chevron & was really interested in something that's 30mmish in size.
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The Eotech is the leading contender right now. Wasn't planning on using a magnifier though, how necessary are they for this sight? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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not exactly the same, but take a look at the Burris XTR-ii 1.5-8x scope. It has a "dual focal plane" which puts the red dot in the SFP, thus keeping a steady non-changing red dot, and the BDC reticle (which is damn good, btw) in the FFP, so it moves as you change the zoom.
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Kinda want to try the acss with my 6 second mount for the more significant pistol drop out to 200yd. Anyone tried one on a pistol or pcc?
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The Eotech is the leading contender right now. Wasn't planning on using a magnifier though, how necessary are they for this sight? View Quote Also, I'm not sure you can get the 3-4 models anymore as they weren't popular so maybe EOTech doesn't sell them anymore. |
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I tried one of the EOTech 3-4 for Limited Division 3-gun (where you can't use a magnifier), and I found the BDC capabilities useless. Not that it is a bad idea, but because I simply can't see the target if it is far enough away that I need to use a BDC drop. I can't physically see an 8" plate at 400 yards without magnification, so the BDC on a 1x red dot did me no good. YMMV. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Eotech EXPS 3-4 also Wasn't planning on using a magnifier though, how necessary are they for this sight? Shooting limited in 3 gun was one of the reasons I was thinking about it. |
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For Limited/Tac-Irons, you may want to look at the Vortex Spitfire with the BDC turret cap. http://www.alloutdoor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/DSC_0058.jpg View Quote Have you ever used one? What's your thoughts on it? |
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For Limited/Tac-Irons, you may want to look at the Vortex Spitfire with the BDC turret cap. http://www.alloutdoor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/DSC_0058.jpg View Quote |
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I did not know that existed. Not exactly what I had in mind but interesting none the less. Have you ever used one? What's your thoughts on it? View Quote I think it's a cool concept although it's different than I thought it would work. The turret marks aren't MOA but are actual 100 yard increments. So, you zero at the 1 for 100 yards and 'dial' on the clock for anything longer. The manual also says it's calibrated for 62gr at 2850fps so you could just do the conversion math to find the actual MOA on the turrets or maybe Vortex could just let you know. I tried Limited/Tac Irons for long range for about 4 months and gave up and went back to scopes. It's for the young kids with young eyes. |
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Sorry, no first hand experience. I only heard about it from a Limited shooter when he was also looking for a red dot with a BDC. I think it's a cool concept although it's different than I thought it would work. The turret marks aren't MOA but are actual 100 yard increments. So, you zero at the 1 for 100 yards and 'dial' on the clock for anything longer. The manual also says it's calibrated for 62gr at 2850fps so you could just do the conversion math to find the actual MOA on the turrets or maybe Vortex could just let you know. I tried Limited/Tac Irons for long range for about 4 months and gave up and went back to scopes. It's for the young kids with young eyes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I did not know that existed. Not exactly what I had in mind but interesting none the less. Have you ever used one? What's your thoughts on it? I think it's a cool concept although it's different than I thought it would work. The turret marks aren't MOA but are actual 100 yard increments. So, you zero at the 1 for 100 yards and 'dial' on the clock for anything longer. The manual also says it's calibrated for 62gr at 2850fps so you could just do the conversion math to find the actual MOA on the turrets or maybe Vortex could just let you know. I tried Limited/Tac Irons for long range for about 4 months and gave up and went back to scopes. It's for the young kids with young eyes. I'd like to do limited, but don't really want to fidddle with irons again. |
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I'm in the same boat, looking for a prism 1x optic. I like the thought of never fully relying on a battery. Anybody have experience with the Burris 1x prism optic?
My brother has one of their 3x prism scopes, but this is for my AR pistol and I don't want magnification. |
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The Eotech is the leading contender right now. Wasn't planning on using a magnifier though, how necessary are they for this sight? View Quote |
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BTW... Here are the reticles the user can select with the upcoming Sig Sauer Romeo4H optic: https://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/alt1/829/circledot.jpg View Quote Any experience with them? |
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A couple interesting looking reticles. Any experience with them? View Quote |
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http://bushnell.com/all-products/rifle-scopes/ar-optics/1-4x-24mm-throw-down-pcl Not sure this is what you would be looking for. It's a dot on 1 power, then go to 4 and you see the reticle. http://www.vortexoptics.com/uploads/ret_strike-eagle_ar-bdc2_full-view.jpg I think the Vortex is the same as the Bushnell. |
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Why would junk from that sleeze ball company that costs twice as much and probably be less reliable than the Holosun be the leading contender? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Eotech is the leading contender right now. Wasn't planning on using a magnifier though, how necessary are they for this sight? |
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Hmm...that's a bummer. Shooting limited in 3 gun was one of the reasons I was thinking about it. View Quote Best 1x out there right now is the old Leupold Prismatic. Ignore its piss poor illumination (don't need it anyway since reticle is etched, but coming from Leupold, this illumination design is well below par). Too bad the Prismatic is discontinued. The closest rival is Vortex Spitfire, the only thing negative about it is its factory mounting height, its a tad too high for me so I put it on my practice gun. Burris is supposedly working on a replacement reticle for its AR1X with input from 3 gunners, but this has been put on the back burner due to other hot projects in front. ETA - Another interesting option I saw this year at one of the matches, a customized Nightforce 1-4 that has bdc with its power ring permanently disabled by a custom shop. Not cheap I'm sure but its legal in 1x/limited class. |
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I've used the Vortex Spitfire 1x Prism for Limited division 3gun. And for bay style rifle/carbine and 2gun matches. I have it on an 12.5" SBR.
Works great. Fast with crisp glass and dot. Hardly ever use illumination. Don't need it for daylight with white steel and tan cardboard. Some don't like the small center dot, but to me that's a huge plus, as I feel it is easier for +200 yard hits, which come up quite a bit where I normally shoot. It outperforms it's price point, imo. |
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I've used the Vortex Spitfire 1x Prism for Limited division 3gun. And for bay style rifle/carbine and 2gun matches. I have it on an 12.5" SBR. Works great. Fast with crisp glass and dot. Hardly ever use illumination. Don't need it for daylight with white steel and tan cardboard. Some don't like the small center dot, but to me that's a huge plus, as I feel it is easier for +200 yard hits, which come up quite a bit where I normally shoot. It outperforms it's price point, imo. View Quote |
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Why would junk from that sleeze ball company that costs twice as much and probably be less reliable than the Holosun be the leading contender? View Quote Just a heads up if you like it here If not, than continue shit posting to your heart's content LOL on top of that you are criticising a "sleeze ball" company who was dishonest, yet you have a - 50% negative feedback here yourself? I guess no one here should ever deal with you again on the EE either? |
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