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Posted: 11/30/2016 1:19:33 PM EDT
| I saw this on eBay and was wondering how much different it is from a real MRO. The machining looks similar, but I'm sure the internals and glass are garbage. The question I have is does Trijicon use 100 percent American-made parts for the MRO, or are they just assembling it in the U.S. and getting the glass and manufacturing from China? |
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You can't compare the two. Anyone can make anything shaped like anything. Doesn't mean they are the same. The companies making the real ones have NOTHING to do with the companies making the Airsoft ones. I would NOT put an Airsoft optic on anything more than maybe a .22LR. I have a CMMG .22LR upper with a Daniel Defense M4A1 FSP RIS II rail on it that I "train and small game with" and it has a clone EXPS3.0/G33 on it, then I have a real EXPS3.0/G33 on my 5.56 Mk18. The clone holds up fine on the .22LR but I know it would emplode and tear space time on 5.56, the internals just wouldn't take the shock. If you want a cheap Chinese optic that can hold up, look at Primary Arms. |
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You can't compare the two. Anyone can make anything shaped like anything. Doesn't mean they are the same. The companies making the real ones have NOTHING to do with the companies making the Airsoft ones. I would NOT put an Airsoft optic on anything more than maybe a .22LR. I have a CMMG .22LR upper with a Daniel Defense M4A1 FSP RIS II rail on it that I "train and small game with" and it has a clone EXPS3.0/G33 on it, then I have a real EXPS3.0/G33 on my 5.56 Mk18. The clone holds up fine on the .22LR but I know it would emplode and tear space time on 5.56, the internals just wouldn't take the shock. If you want a cheap Chinese optic that can hold up, look at Primary Arms. I'm with you. Not looking to buy. Just wondering how all this Chinese crap is allowed into our markets. |
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I saw this on eBay and was wondering how much different it is from a real MRO. The machining looks similar, but I'm sure the internals and glass are garbage. The question I have is does Trijicon use 100 percent American-made parts for the MRO, or are they just assembling it in the U.S. and getting the glass and manufacturing from China? The vast majority of Trijicon products, including all ACOG®, RMR®, Reflex, MRO®, Night Sights, SRS®, VCOG®, TARS®, CCAS® and Archery Sights are designed, engineered, machined and assembled at our facility in Wixom, Michigan and are therefore 100% Made in the USA. https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/company/made_in_the_usa.php |
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I'm with you. Not looking to buy. Just wondering how all this Chinese crap is allowed into our markets. Quoted:
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You can't compare the two. Anyone can make anything shaped like anything. Doesn't mean they are the same. The companies making the real ones have NOTHING to do with the companies making the Airsoft ones. I would NOT put an Airsoft optic on anything more than maybe a .22LR. I have a CMMG .22LR upper with a Daniel Defense M4A1 FSP RIS II rail on it that I "train and small game with" and it has a clone EXPS3.0/G33 on it, then I have a real EXPS3.0/G33 on my 5.56 Mk18. The clone holds up fine on the .22LR but I know it would emplode and tear space time on 5.56, the internals just wouldn't take the shock. If you want a cheap Chinese optic that can hold up, look at Primary Arms. I'm with you. Not looking to buy. Just wondering how all this Chinese crap is allowed into our markets. If it wasn't allowed "into our markets", when you went into any store the shelves would be pretty empty, as would your home. About 75% of the worlds goods are made in China today. There is little you own that is NOT made in China. Even your American car/truck has parts from China. Good luck with this line of thinking. |
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Quoted: I'm with you. Not looking to buy. Just wondering how all this Chinese crap is allowed into our markets. Quoted: Quoted: You can't compare the two. Anyone can make anything shaped like anything. Doesn't mean they are the same. The companies making the real ones have NOTHING to do with the companies making the Airsoft ones. I would NOT put an Airsoft optic on anything more than maybe a .22LR. I have a CMMG .22LR upper with a Daniel Defense M4A1 FSP RIS II rail on it that I "train and small game with" and it has a clone EXPS3.0/G33 on it, then I have a real EXPS3.0/G33 on my 5.56 Mk18. The clone holds up fine on the .22LR but I know it would emplode and tear space time on 5.56, the internals just wouldn't take the shock. If you want a cheap Chinese optic that can hold up, look at Primary Arms. I'm with you. Not looking to buy. Just wondering how all this Chinese crap is allowed into our markets. It's made for Airsofters for usage on Airsoft guns. It's not designed for real sports shooters or door kickers. I do find they hold up find on .22LR AR guns though so if you want that look but don't want to spend hundreds of dollars, go for it on something like that. |
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It's made for Airsofters for usage on Airsoft guns. It's not designed for real sports shooters or door kickers. I do find they hold up find on .22LR AR guns though so if you want that look but don't want to spend hundreds of dollars, go for it on something like that. I don't believe it's made for airsofters. It's made for the crowd that buys the cheapest of cheap, and just want their AR to look cool or look like something the SEALs use. Theres an(large) entire segment of the market under represented here that is just fine with buying an M&P sport of whatever the cheapest AR is on the shelf at the gun store, and buying a $30 centerpoint/NCSTAR/BSA optic from walmart, adding a barrel clamp bipod, $5 foregrip, mag coupler, and one of those ugly magwell grip things and shooting 4 or 5 boxes of tula per year. As long as they get a few cool pictures for facebook and can then call themselves zombie hunters, they are happy. |
| That being said, you can get a red dot made by a reputable optics manufacturer for even cheaper that will hold up great, although you might have to sacrifice the 'tacticool' brand name that so many love here. Bushnell, Simmons, Tasco, Pentax, Weaver, etc all make inexpensive optics that are guaranteed. I put a $40 Tasco red dot (bought at WalMart) on my pre-ban 16" AR Carbine in 1994 and it's still working fine to this day. |
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I don't believe it's made for airsofters. It's made for the crowd that buys the cheapest of cheap, and just want their AR to look cool or look like something the SEALs use. Theres an(large) entire segment of the market under represented here that is just fine with buying an M&P sport of whatever the cheapest AR is on the shelf at the gun store, and buying a $30 centerpoint/NCSTAR/BSA optic from walmart, adding a barrel clamp bipod, $5 foregrip, mag coupler, and one of those ugly magwell grip things and shooting 4 or 5 boxes of tula per year. As long as they get a few cool pictures for facebook and can then call themselves zombie hunters, they are happy. Quoted:
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It's made for Airsofters for usage on Airsoft guns. It's not designed for real sports shooters or door kickers. I do find they hold up find on .22LR AR guns though so if you want that look but don't want to spend hundreds of dollars, go for it on something like that. I don't believe it's made for airsofters. It's made for the crowd that buys the cheapest of cheap, and just want their AR to look cool or look like something the SEALs use. Theres an(large) entire segment of the market under represented here that is just fine with buying an M&P sport of whatever the cheapest AR is on the shelf at the gun store, and buying a $30 centerpoint/NCSTAR/BSA optic from walmart, adding a barrel clamp bipod, $5 foregrip, mag coupler, and one of those ugly magwell grip things and shooting 4 or 5 boxes of tula per year. As long as they get a few cool pictures for facebook and can then call themselves zombie hunters, they are happy. lol your explanation is spot on. Well said. |
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I'm with you. Not looking to buy. Just wondering how all this Chinese crap is allowed into our markets. WTO... Clinton signed it.. payback for the Chinese funding his two campanges. I have a Burris AR-332. It's a good 3x. Not everything out of China is junk. |
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IMHO, imported optics are necessary to keep US optics from going "full retard" on pricing (which they would, w/o competition). However... I do NOT like copyright or patent theft, which the Chinese are infamous for. That needs to stop.
Someday I'll rock a TA31, but for now... I'll have to settle for my cheap Holosun optics (but have no complaints about them yet). |
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I don't believe it's made for airsofters. It's made for the crowd that buys the cheapest of cheap, and just want their AR to look cool or look like something the SEALs use. Theres an(large) entire segment of the market under represented here that is just fine with buying an M&P sport of whatever the cheapest AR is on the shelf at the gun store, and buying a $30 centerpoint/NCSTAR/BSA optic from walmart, adding a barrel clamp bipod, $5 foregrip, mag coupler, and one of those ugly magwell grip things and shooting 4 or 5 boxes of tula per year. As long as they get a few cool pictures for facebook and can then call themselves zombie hunters, they are happy. Yeah, they're the ones in the Facebook groups. Every once in a while I'll browse them but can only last a few minutes because of all the stupid stuff I read there. |
| I have found a RMR and a RMO on Amazon that were fakes. The items will be sold as used from the Amazon warehouse. I have contact Amazon 2 times now about this and they are clueless! I'm doing them a favor and they do not seem to care. I'm doing this so others don't get ripped off, it didn't fool me they are not hard to spot if you just google it up. Please use caution they are not cheap. |
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The reason Chinese products are allowed in our market is because most of your fellow citizens are too cheap to buy a quality product, or are delusional and actually believe it's the same thing without the brand name price tag.
As long as U.S. citizens continue to buy this crap they will continue to sell it to us. It's not China's fault or even our governments responsibility to control international commerce. The purchase decision must be made by each individual when they spend their hard earned money. Unless a specific foreign product is actually manufactured inside our borders, jobs will remain scarce and wages pushed lower. Foreign factories have all the robotics and CNC equipment we use, the difference is they pay their employees 1/10th our wages. There is no competing against that. |
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I don't believe it's made for airsofters. It's made for the crowd that buys the cheapest of cheap, and just want their AR to look cool or look like something the SEALs use. Theres an(large) entire segment of the market under represented here that is just fine with buying an M&P sport of whatever the cheapest AR is on the shelf at the gun store, and buying a $30 centerpoint/NCSTAR/BSA optic from walmart, adding a barrel clamp bipod, $5 foregrip, mag coupler, and one of those ugly magwell grip things and shooting 4 or 5 boxes of tula per year. As long as they get a few cool pictures for facebook and can then call themselves zombie hunters, they are happy. ya no joke. just look at the adds on backpage. lots of decent rifles outfitted with junk. |
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you can have all Chinese parts but if you build in the US. you can say made in the usa No you cannot. Please don't quote shit that is completely just made up. educate yourself |
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I don't believe it's made for airsofters. It's made for the crowd that buys the cheapest of cheap, and just want their AR to look cool or look like something the SEALs use. Theres an(large) entire segment of the market under represented here that is just fine with buying an M&P sport of whatever the cheapest AR is on the shelf at the gun store, and buying a $30 centerpoint/NCSTAR/BSA optic from walmart, adding a barrel clamp bipod, $5 foregrip, mag coupler, and one of those ugly magwell grip things and shooting 4 or 5 boxes of tula per year. As long as they get a few cool pictures for facebook and can then call themselves zombie hunters, they are happy. Yeah and that last statement fits 90% of the people on this site too, just different gear. Just replace the NCSTAR stuff with aimpoint and replace the bipod with harris and the foregrip with a fortis manufacturing or something. You might buy the "high end stuff" but it doesn't make you an elite spec ops 
I fit the 90% too. Just a regular shooter. nothing fancy. |
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