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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:56:18 PM EDT
| I only looked through a few micro dots in person and havent actually got to shoot with any but i noticed the fov was rather small. Ive read that with these red dots that once youre shooting and focused on the targets that the tube disappears and you have almost unlimited fov. Now i really want to buy one of the holosun micro dots with the acss reticle but im blind in one eye and i think that my lack of normal peripheral vision will make it less usable for me compared to others. If anyone with same condition can chime in with their experience with micro dots like the t1 (which is the model i was playing with in a store when i noticed the potential problem) it would be greatly appreciated. Also if someone is bored ebough they can blindfold their weak eye and and do some target transitions and itd be close to the same affect. Thanks again for any help. |
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My fiancé is blind in one eye. When I first built her a rifle, I put a PA Micro RDS on it to see if she liked it. After using my SBR with an Eotech side by side with her rifle/PA RDS, she decided the Eotech was worlds better for her.
I then got her an XPS2, but that lost its nitrogen purge so it went back for the refund. Her rifle now sports an Aimpoint PRO which she says is still worlds better than any of my AP Micros. Sample size of one, but the larger diameter optics seem to work better for her. |
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Maybe look at the MRO? It has a larger lens than the standard micro's. Cost more than the Holosun, but may be an option. This. Wider objective lens = wider fov through the optic, making the dot easier to pick up quickly, especially if firing from awkward positions w/sloppy cheekweld. The aforementioned Meprolight RDS is another possibility w/great fov through the optic, but max brightness could be a bit higher, IMHO. Tomac |
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Kind of irrelevant considering OP is blind in one eye, don't ya think? Quoted:
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With both open and scanning you should only see a floating dot. Kind of irrelevant considering OP is blind in one eye, don't ya think? It drives me nuts when people just post and don't read the OP. |
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Hey man, I would look hard at either the Mepro Tru Dot RDS(Very affordable used on the EE) and the Trijicon MRO(little more money).
I've owned both and FOV through both is excellent with one eye shut. I think they might work for ya well. I'm not an eotech guy, too many issues and battery life sucks. The Mepro does everything better than the eotech. |
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Hey man, I would look hard at either the Mepro Tru Dot RDS(Very affordable used on the EE) and the Trijicon MRO(little more money). I've owned both and FOV through both is excellent with one eye shut. I think they might work for ya well. I'm not an eotech guy, too many issues and battery life sucks. The Mepro does everything better than the eotech. Ill have to look into the mepro, thanks. I wish pa would make an eotech alternative with their new red dot acss reticle |
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The Leupold Deltapoint Pro is great for one eyed shooting. Very low distortion glass and an almost non-existent housing. Ive thought about that. im sure its durable bit this is going to go on build thats gonna be my best attempt at a do evrything rifle, you know hd, plinking, shtf, maybe some local 2/3 gun, and maybe some hunting. If i ended up with a red dot i was gonna by a samson magnifier for the potential hunting part. So my main concern for the deltapoint would be potentially getting the emitter dirty. |
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Mounting the RDS more forward, more eye relief, will also widen your field of view. On my AR's the front edge of my Holosuns is about even with the forward edge of the receiver's rail. This is EXACTLY the opposite of reality. Moving a dot sight closer increases the FOV and further away decreases it. Please do not listen to this person. |
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Ive thought about that. im sure its durable bit this is going to go on build thats gonna be my best attempt at a do evrything rifle, you know hd, plinking, shtf, maybe some local 2/3 gun, and maybe some hunting. If i ended up with a red dot i was gonna by a samson magnifier for the potential hunting part. So my main concern for the deltapoint would be potentially getting the emitter dirty. Quoted:
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The Leupold Deltapoint Pro is great for one eyed shooting. Very low distortion glass and an almost non-existent housing. Ive thought about that. im sure its durable bit this is going to go on build thats gonna be my best attempt at a do evrything rifle, you know hd, plinking, shtf, maybe some local 2/3 gun, and maybe some hunting. If i ended up with a red dot i was gonna by a samson magnifier for the potential hunting part. So my main concern for the deltapoint would be potentially getting the emitter dirty. The emitter is sealed in a a water proof glass housing. It is gets dirty wipe it off. Id just get an Aimpoint PRO if I were you. |
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What more budget friendly ones would you sugest.. sub $500. Also would true 1x actually matter in my case? Quoted:
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With only one eye, I wouldn't bother with any red dot. Your best fov is going to be a 1-4x with a large ocular bell. What more budget friendly ones would you sugest.. sub $500. Also would true 1x actually matter in my case? I doubt it'll matter if it's a true 1x I do think the suggestion of a 1x4 makes the most sense so far The Vortex StrikeEagle might be a good budget friendly option (1x6) An illuminated low power variable will do everything a red dot.+ magnifier can do, only netter |
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With only one eye, I wouldn't bother with any red dot. Your best fov is going to be a 1-4x with a large ocular bell. What more budget friendly ones would you sugest.. sub $500. Also would true 1x actually matter in my case? After cashing in my Eotech, I went with a Burris Mtac 1-4 on an aero lightweight mount. It is much lighter than the eotech with 3x magnifier. The reticles are almost identical. Mtac doenst require power to work being etched. Very clear and great eye relief at 1x. Fantastic scope. |
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Ive had an mtac and didnt like the reticle. Im thinking about the leupold vxr patrol or the new lucid l7 1-6x. The VXR patrol is fantastic. Solid glass, daylight bright red dot, lightweight, and the motion activated reticle works really well. For red dots, I just got in a deltapoint pro today and the FOV is amazing. The housing is almost invisible. |
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The VXR patrol is fantastic. Solid glass, daylight bright red dot, lightweight, and the motion activated reticle works really well. For red dots, I just got in a deltapoint pro today and the FOV is amazing. The housing is almost invisible. Quoted:
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Ive had an mtac and didnt like the reticle. Im thinking about the leupold vxr patrol or the new lucid l7 1-6x. The VXR patrol is fantastic. Solid glass, daylight bright red dot, lightweight, and the motion activated reticle works really well. For red dots, I just got in a deltapoint pro today and the FOV is amazing. The housing is almost invisible. How sharp is the triangle?...havent been able to find to many pictures looking through the optic but some looked blurry but that was probably the camera. |
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The emitter is sealed in a a water proof glass housing. It is gets dirty wipe it off. Id just get an Aimpoint PRO if I were you. Quoted:
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The Leupold Deltapoint Pro is great for one eyed shooting. Very low distortion glass and an almost non-existent housing. Ive thought about that. im sure its durable bit this is going to go on build thats gonna be my best attempt at a do evrything rifle, you know hd, plinking, shtf, maybe some local 2/3 gun, and maybe some hunting. If i ended up with a red dot i was gonna by a samson magnifier for the potential hunting part. So my main concern for the deltapoint would be potentially getting the emitter dirty. The emitter is sealed in a a water proof glass housing. It is gets dirty wipe it off. Id just get an Aimpoint PRO if I were you. ^yup. If you've only got one eye, I'd mount the red dot far back on the receiver. |
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How sharp is the triangle?...havent been able to find to many pictures looking through the optic but some looked blurry but that was probably the camera. Quoted:
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Ive had an mtac and didnt like the reticle. Im thinking about the leupold vxr patrol or the new lucid l7 1-6x. The VXR patrol is fantastic. Solid glass, daylight bright red dot, lightweight, and the motion activated reticle works really well. For red dots, I just got in a deltapoint pro today and the FOV is amazing. The housing is almost invisible. How sharp is the triangle?...havent been able to find to many pictures looking through the optic but some looked blurry but that was probably the camera. Photographing reticles is difficult, especially the special shaped ones. I have the 2.5 moa dot version, the dot is crisper the the trijicon mro, aimpoint t1 and Pro. |
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This is EXACTLY the opposite of reality. Moving a dot sight closer increases the FOV and further away decreases it. Please do not listen to this person. Quoted:
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Mounting the RDS more forward, more eye relief, will also widen your field of view. On my AR's the front edge of my Holosuns is about even with the forward edge of the receiver's rail. This is EXACTLY the opposite of reality. Moving a dot sight closer increases the FOV and further away decreases it. Please do not listen to this person. With your eye close to the sight you can only see through the sight. With the sight more forward, you can see around the sight, to both sides of the sight. So it is "field of view" of the eye, not the sight. Takes just a few minutes to move the sight forward or back on the rail to try it. |
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With your eye close to the sight you can only see through the sight. With the sight more forward, you can see around the sight, to both sides of the sight. So it is "field of view" of the eye, not the sight. Takes just a few minutes to move the sight forward or back on the rail to try it. Quoted:
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Mounting the RDS more forward, more eye relief, will also widen your field of view. On my AR's the front edge of my Holosuns is about even with the forward edge of the receiver's rail. This is EXACTLY the opposite of reality. Moving a dot sight closer increases the FOV and further away decreases it. Please do not listen to this person. With your eye close to the sight you can only see through the sight. With the sight more forward, you can see around the sight, to both sides of the sight. So it is "field of view" of the eye, not the sight. Takes just a few minutes to move the sight forward or back on the rail to try it. For fuckssake can we stop arguing about where RDS should be placed? A European nation (I believe it was Sweden, but don't have it in front of me at the moment) did a scientific study on RDS placement and determined that the "best" location on their weapons was just forward of the midpoint of the rifle. Many door kickers and pipe hitters tend to run theirs as far back as possible, and probably have a lot more hands on than a Euro-conscript "protection force." You can support either and argue about it ad nauseum, but the reality is that different people have different eyes and brains and visual information is not all processed exactly the same for reasons that can range from genetics and physiology to cultural considerations and early-childhood development. Let it go, experiment with it yourself, and place the optic where it's most comfortable for you. OP - given your specific circumstances, it might be worthwhile to take a look at what Mike Pannone runs and take some cues from that. Though he has the added issue of his bad eye being his dominant eye, he nevertheless shares the constraint of having only one usable eye, but nevertheless remains a highly competent shooter and very well respected instructor. I haven't specifically researched his preferences, but IIRC, he tended to use EOTechs for RDS but has since moved to low-powered variables with generous eye releif/eye boxes. ~Augee |
If I owned a red dot, I would cover up my eyeball and tell you what I think. But I don't. I do think that a scope MIGHT be a better deal. Because the whole upside to a Red dot is both eyes open shooting and focusing on the target. But it may work well with one eye too, and it may depend on where you put it on the rifle and how big it is. Etc. Too bad you can't go shooting with a bunch of arfcommers with lots of choices in their kit. 
Have you shot with a traditional scope on a rifle too, to know if you it works for you? Maybe one of the true 1x scopes would be a good thing. Like the Vortex etched reticle one.... I forget what it's called now. Leupold had some kind of 1x that was like a scope too. The upside to them is no batteries. I personally prefer the eotech and rmr type housings on red dots because they take up so much less of your sight picture. And I think that might be good advice.... I think you just have to do like the rest of us and somehow try different ones. In stores and such and see what works best for you. But yeah, I'm not sure why reading is so hard for some people. I think a few guys wanted to "school" you real quick on shooting with both eyes open by just looking at your thread title. |
The Leupold DeltaPoint Pro does have a much wider "through the screen" image than typical 20mm micro red dots. And, as observed above, the frame, even though now duty hardened with slring steel, has no protrusions. For a person who must use one eye for everything, it might make a good choice. I picked the 7.5 MOA triangle version which is very fast in target acquisition, but has a very fine aiming point.
As others pointed out, it is difficult to photograph a reticle accurately. Here is my best effort with a cell cam. In real use the perceived "bloom" is not there. The triangle is sharp. The camera lens exposure was not quite right. But this should give one an idea. 
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