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Posted: 10/21/2015 10:37:28 PM EDT
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Okay fellas, I know this has been asked before just like every other question.
I'm looking for a good quality cantilever mount for my Vortex HS LR 2.5-10x32. Larue is what I thought at first, but would like some real world experience and pics would be helpful as well. Here are my preferred requirements.... 1. QD would be nice, but not a deal breaker either way. 2. It can't weigh 2 metric shit-tons or more. 3. Will pay to play, but am not interested in stupidly overpriced $4-500 mounts. 4. Would prefer if it were slightly lower than the commonplace 1.5" height. This rifle probably won't get iron sights, and if it does I'll buy some of those uber compact ones. I feel most standard mounts are ever so slightly too high with this particular scope. Right now running Nikon P rings, because the local store had them in stock. I knew they were temporary when I bought them. 5. No Burris PEPR mounts. I happen to think they are heavy pieces of sub-par Chinese shit. Thanks so much, And......Go! 
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Nightforce has a fixed mount with forward offset that sits lower than any of the QD mounts. IIRC about 1.2" over the rail to centerline. If you want QD I would go for the Larue SPR-S around 1.4" to centerline. For absolute weight savings aero's mounts are king. I don't think they have a low version though. For an absolute budget mount check out the primary arms cantilever mounts for about $60. For a slightly nicer budget mount look at the Vortex fixed mount. I think these look very nice, prettier than the aero mount and more slimline than the primary arms. |
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Thanks MS556 and Frost.
The Nightforce fixed mount and Vortex fixed mounts look good. Is it just my imagination or is the extended SPR-S Larue slightly lower than the 104 MS posted a pic of? The new scope seems good, but in order to stay in the sweet spot at higher power I find myself "scrunching" down. I think a mount slightly lower than the 104 would be ideal. Thanks. ETA: Nice setup MS556. How do you like those irons? They look great on there. |
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Look larue is good but its basic ADM does the same for cheaper. Bobro is better than both. Aero for light weight. In cold weather with gloves ADM and larue is a pain in the ass to remove. I used to use 550 to remove them. But now I don't because bobro offers a much better mechanic. All are good but some are better. How often do you plan to swap optics? I swap mine every time I shoot so QD is all I run. I'm not going to get all misty here on the details you do the research find what suits your needs. |
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Thanks MS556 and Frost. The Nightforce fixed mount and Vortex fixed mounts look good. Is it just my imagination or is the extended SPR-S Larue slightly lower than the 104 MS posted a pic of? The new scope seems good, but in order to stay in the sweet spot at higher power I find myself "scrunching" down. I think a mount slightly lower than the 104 would be ideal. Thanks. ETA: Nice setup MS556. How do you like those irons? They look great on there. The Magpul MBUS Pro irons are working out very well. They are much slimmer than what they replaced and are very low when folded flat. On the SPR-S, LaRue lists it as 1.44" high versus 1.5" for the 104. I see that the S is also a 10 MOA slope mount, for longer range elevation needs. Whether the .060" difference is enough for you, I obviously cannot say. I dont know if anyone else makes a 1.40" or lower true return to zero QD cantilever mount. I like LaRue, but have several ADM mounts and they have been good. But, they are for a red dot and a reflex. You might want to see if ADM has anything lower for a scope. . I guess removal when wearing gloves is subjective, because that is one of the reasons I prefer the LaRue. Sliding the lock latch back on the rear lever is very easy for me with gloves on. Flipping the levers on either LaRue or ADM is no problem. Its just hard to press the button part of the ADM lever with a gloved finger or thumb. In south Mississippi it does not get super cold, so my gloves are not real thick, though. Edit: I didn't know you had issues with ADM, sorry. |
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The Magpul MBUS Pro irons are working out very well. They are much slimmer than what they replaced and are very low when folded flat. On the SPR-S, LaRue lists it as 1.44" high versus 1.5" for the 104. I see that the S is also a 10 MOA slope sight, for longer range elevation needs. Whether the .060" difference is enough for you, I obviously cannot say. I dont know if anyone else makes a 1.40" or lower true return to zero QD cantilever mount. I like LaRue, but have several ADM mounts and they have been good. But, they are for a red dot and a reflex. You might want to see if ADM has anything lower for a scope. . I guess removal when wearing gloves is subjective, because that is one of the reasons I prefer the LaRue. Sliding the lock latch back on the rear lever is very easy for me with gloves on. Flipping the levers on either LaRue or ADM is no problem. Its just hard to press the button part of the ADM lever with a gloved finger or thumb. In south Mississippi it does not get super cold, so my gloves are not real thick, though. Edit: I didn't know you had issues with ADM, sorry. Quoted:
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Thanks MS556 and Frost. The Nightforce fixed mount and Vortex fixed mounts look good. Is it just my imagination or is the extended SPR-S Larue slightly lower than the 104 MS posted a pic of? The new scope seems good, but in order to stay in the sweet spot at higher power I find myself "scrunching" down. I think a mount slightly lower than the 104 would be ideal. Thanks. ETA: Nice setup MS556. How do you like those irons? They look great on there. The Magpul MBUS Pro irons are working out very well. They are much slimmer than what they replaced and are very low when folded flat. On the SPR-S, LaRue lists it as 1.44" high versus 1.5" for the 104. I see that the S is also a 10 MOA slope sight, for longer range elevation needs. Whether the .060" difference is enough for you, I obviously cannot say. I dont know if anyone else makes a 1.40" or lower true return to zero QD cantilever mount. I like LaRue, but have several ADM mounts and they have been good. But, they are for a red dot and a reflex. You might want to see if ADM has anything lower for a scope. . I guess removal when wearing gloves is subjective, because that is one of the reasons I prefer the LaRue. Sliding the lock latch back on the rear lever is very easy for me with gloves on. Flipping the levers on either LaRue or ADM is no problem. Its just hard to press the button part of the ADM lever with a gloved finger or thumb. In south Mississippi it does not get super cold, so my gloves are not real thick, though. Edit: I didn't know you had issues with ADM, sorry. Thanks so much. Naa....no real issues with ADM. I just figure if I'm buying a mount like that I will spend the money to get the Larue rather than an imitation. The SPR-S may be in the lead with those specs. The Nightforce is a strong contender as well. Still curious about the gator grip from PRI. Apparently they are not popular. Looks like an innovative design, although heavier and damn sure uglier. Thinking about buying their kit with "low" rings... 
ETA: Don't get too cold in North MS either. Lol. Not worried too much. This stuff is a hobby to me. I love it. But if it gets that cold I'll just go inside. So, definitely subjective, but I'm glad he brought it up. |
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I like my optics mounted lower than "standard" too. I use a YHM extended riser and "low" height Vortex Tactical rings. This gives me something like a 1.3" center ring height. Cheek weld is perfect. Those rings have a coin slot, so they can be removed fairly quickly with a variety of tools in case I need to switch to irons, and return pretty damn close to zero if you install them in the same spot with consistent torque (I go as tight as I can using a quarter in the slot to accomplish this). It isn't quite QD, but is the next best thing. Also this combo is very light weight. Lighter than my old PA Extended mount, and MUCH lighter than the boat anchor PEPR mount you mention. I am with you on those... I once got a PEPR in a combo with a scope from SWFA, and sold it immediately.
Anyway, here is what my setup looks like. It works so well that I now have 3 rifles set up this way. 
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I like my optics mounted lower than "standard" too. I use a YHM extended riser and "low" height Vortex Tactical rings. This gives me something like a 1.3" center ring height. Cheek weld is perfect. Those rings have a coin slot, so they can be removed fairly quickly with a variety of tools in case I need to switch to irons, and return pretty damn close to zero if you install them in the same spot with consistent torque (I go as tight as I can using a quarter in the slot to accomplish this). It isn't quite QD, but is the next best thing. Also this combo is very light weight. Lighter than my old PA Extended mount, and MUCH lighter than the boat anchor PEPR mount you mention. I am with you on those... I once got a PEPR in a combo with a scope from SWFA, and sold it immediately. Anyway, here is what my setup looks like. It works so well that I now have 3 rifles set up this way. http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/henschman/guns/image_zps2caa7e55.jpg Thank you for the info sir. Perfect. I was thinking of doing something similar. I knew PRI made their long riser rail. Was looking at doing that with some low rings or something. While I was on their site I looked at the Gator Grip. It looks really versatile and allows you to use any height rings they make. I'm leaning towards that, or something like yours. |
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Glad I could help. Midway is the cheapest place I have found to buy the YHM riser. I generally use the 6" long version on AR-15s, and the 5" one on .308 ARs. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2696314296/yankee-hill-machine-extended-picatinny-style-riser-mount-ar-15-flat-top-matte
I hadn't ever seen that Gator Grip. Looks pretty slick. I still prefer the versatility of a Picatinny riser, which lets me use any ring I want and put it anywhere on the riser I want. I will add that the downside of my YHM riser setup is that only the lowest profile folding rear sights will clear when you get the scope that low. Pretty much only the MBUS Pros, KAC Micro, or Spikes Micro. Oh well, being able to get in a proper position with my primary optic is much more important than backup irons to me. |
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If you go with a riser mount like the YHM I would consider the Warne QD rings. I've been pretty happy with mine. Another option is the Larue riser with a really low set of rings. I'm not a huge fan of risers with rings as it's another set of screws that have to stay tight. |
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If you go with a riser mount like the YHM I would consider the Warne QD rings. I've been pretty happy with mine. Another option is the Larue riser with a really low set of rings. I'm not a huge fan of risers with rings as it's another set of screws that have to stay tight. I'm a fan of Warns rings anyway. Every set I've had has been well made and reasonably priced. I've considered the PRI Gator Grip riser with QD, with a set of Warne fixed rings on top. ETA: after factoring in weight, size, and usability, the Larue SPR-S is looking better and better. I contacted or at least tried to contact Alamo Four Star several days ago via email. I wanted to know the weight and optic centerline, because their QD mount looks awesome. But so far, I've gotten no response. |
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Quoted: I have a few Aero Ultralight SPR 30mm mounts and I think they're great for what you get. ~3.3oz, but no QD. I tend not to remove my scopes often after mounting and zeroing it, so it fits my bills.  |
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The SPR-S and SPR (104) are the same height. Larue lists all the heights on their website. I prefer the SPR-S as I shoot NTCH and they fit me better with most optics. SPR-S is a bit lower than the LT104. It has built in MOA. I think that is the only difference between the two. The SPR-E is extended. |
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Quoted: SPR-S is a bit lower than the LT104. It has built in MOA. I think that is the only difference between the two. The SPR-E is extended. Quoted: Quoted: The SPR-S and SPR (104) are the same height. Larue lists all the heights on their website. I prefer the SPR-S as I shoot NTCH and they fit me better with most optics. SPR-S is a bit lower than the LT104. It has built in MOA. I think that is the only difference between the two. The SPR-E is extended. |
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My bad. I meant SPR-E. Not sure what I was thinking when I typed that. Quoted:
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The SPR-S and SPR (104) are the same height. Larue lists all the heights on their website. I prefer the SPR-S as I shoot NTCH and they fit me better with most optics. SPR-S is a bit lower than the LT104. It has built in MOA. I think that is the only difference between the two. The SPR-E is extended. Yeah, the S is the one a bit lower at 1.44" and 20 MOA, but not sure .060" will make much difference. Still better than 1.5" if he needs lower and wants a one piece. |
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