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Posted: 8/10/2015 8:53:08 PM EDT
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So I'm considering another AR in the near future, should it become financially feasible, and I'm really wanting an extremely lightweight gun this time around. I'm partial to the Colt 6520 since I already have a Colt LE6920 that I love. I'm not positive I will go with an optic but it's very likely since my vision isn't getting any better. The 6520 has a carry handle so I want to go with something relatively low profile to minimize the offset.
Magnified or red dot, I'm open to either but has to be good quality. What do you recommend? |
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So I'm considering another AR in the near future, should it become financially feasible, and I'm really wanting an extremely lightweight gun this time around. I'm partial to the Colt 6520 since I already have a Colt LE6920 that I love. I'm not positive I will go with an optic but it's very likely since my vision isn't getting any better. The 6520 has a carry handle so I want to go with something relatively low profile to minimize the offset. Magnified or red dot, I'm open to either but has to be good quality. What do you recommend? If you want to go lightweight, having a model with a carry handle will not help to acheive that... Your two basic options for optic mount is one that sits atop the carry handle (giving you considerable height over bore) or a goose neck. (which puts the optic way out in front and still limits your FOV) Both options are very limiting in user configurations for an optic, magnified or not. I hope this helps in weighing your decisions. |
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I have an A2 RRA 9mm. The ACOG would be best if you can afford it.
I used a DNZ carry handle mount and a Vortex 1x scope. Seems to sit high but I still get a good cheek weld. Large field of view, like iron sights without any target obstruction of view on the bottom. Very fast. I zeroed the scope at 25 yards and the POI at 100 yards seems very close. Was able to hit plinking tartgets at 100 easily. Havent put it on paper yet at 50 and 100 due to rain that day. Was using 115 gr WWB. The scope was $119.00 shipped. Good replacement for a red dot if you like stuff without batteries. Leupold makes a 2.5x Ultralite scope that would be a bit nicer at $279.00. Leupold also has some nice 1-4x scopes if you can afford it. |
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If you want to go lightweight, having a model with a carry handle will not help to acheive that... Your two basic options for optic mount is one that sits atop the carry handle (giving you considerable height over bore) or a goose neck. (which puts the optic way out in front and still limits your FOV) Both options are very limiting in user configurations for an optic, magnified or not. I hope this helps in weighing your decisions. Quoted:
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So I'm considering another AR in the near future, should it become financially feasible, and I'm really wanting an extremely lightweight gun this time around. I'm partial to the Colt 6520 since I already have a Colt LE6920 that I love. I'm not positive I will go with an optic but it's very likely since my vision isn't getting any better. The 6520 has a carry handle so I want to go with something relatively low profile to minimize the offset. Magnified or red dot, I'm open to either but has to be good quality. What do you recommend? If you want to go lightweight, having a model with a carry handle will not help to acheive that... Your two basic options for optic mount is one that sits atop the carry handle (giving you considerable height over bore) or a goose neck. (which puts the optic way out in front and still limits your FOV) Both options are very limiting in user configurations for an optic, magnified or not. I hope this helps in weighing your decisions. The Colt 6520 is the lightest AR available. Why they don't offer it with a flattop, I don't know, it would sell like hotcakes. I had a 60's era SP1 years ago and I didn't mind the carry handle. It was insanely lightweight and a nice change of pace from the much heavier carbines. |
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Primary arms microdot and a kley Zion mount from Botach, cheap and very low profile. http://pic100.picturetrail.com:80/VOL351/7575719/21312193/410526680.jpg" /> That's an option, thanks. |
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If you already know that you want an optic, why would you get a carry handle model? Optics on carry handles are certainly not ideal and usually the only reason someone would do this is that they already have an A2 and can't afford to get another rifle. The other issue is the added weight of an A2 upper..since you mentioned you wanted to keep it as light as possible, it would seem the carry handle is basically dead weight.
Just some of my random thoughts... 
ETA: Just noticed in another post you mention the 6520 is the lightest rifle Colt makes. What makes it lighter than the others? Barrel profile? How much lighter? Still seems like a lot to sacrifice in cheek weld and ergonomics... |
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If you already know that you want an optic, why would you get a carry handle model? Optics on carry handles are certainly not ideal and usually the only reason someone would do this is that they already have an A2 and can't afford to get another rifle. The other issue is the added weight of an A2 upper..since you mentioned you wanted to keep it as light as possible, it would seem the carry handle is basically dead weight. Just some of my random thoughts...
ETA: Just noticed in another post you mention the 6520 is the lightest rifle Colt makes. What makes it lighter than the others? Barrel profile? How much lighter? Still seems like a lot to sacrifice in cheek weld and ergonomics... It's not just the lightest Colt makes, it's the lightest of anything on the market minus SBR's of course. There may be a lighter one out there but I've not been able to find it and I've spent much time looking. Part of the reason is the Colt has their pencil barrel which is significantly lighter than the lightest barrel I can find elsewhere (the Daniel Defense 16" LW). I don't know if they've done anything else to the gun to make it lighter but considering the difference in weight between the 6520 and all the other "lightweight" carbines out there, I suspect there are other differences. I looked at building a lightweight carbine but even using the DD barrel I can't get near the weight of the 6520. The Colt pencil barrels shoot very, very well and don't go slinging bullets all over the place when they warm up like many people claim. There are better barrel profiles if you're going to shoot mag after mag as fast as possible and need pinpoint accuracy but very few folks do that. For "light" work it works just fine and since this will be a lightweight "fun" gun, it's perfect. If the bad guys attack the homeland I'll use my 6920. |
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The Colt 6520 is the lightest AR available. Why they don't offer it with a flattop, I don't know, it would sell like hotcakes. I had to triple check the post date to make sure I hadn't stumbled into the archives accidentally... The 6720 is literally a 6520 with a flattop... The Colt LE/AR 6520 was discontinued in favor of the LE6720. 
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I had to triple check the post date to make sure I hadn't stumbled into the archives accidentally... The 6720 is literally a 6520 with a flattop... The Colt LE/AR 6520 was discontinued in favor of the LE6720. http://clydearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/l/clyde_armory_colt_ar6720.jpg ~Augee Quoted:
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The Colt 6520 is the lightest AR available. Why they don't offer it with a flattop, I don't know, it would sell like hotcakes. I had to triple check the post date to make sure I hadn't stumbled into the archives accidentally... The 6720 is literally a 6520 with a flattop... The Colt LE/AR 6520 was discontinued in favor of the LE6720. http://clydearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/l/clyde_armory_colt_ar6720.jpg ~Augee Very good to know, thanks Augee. One thing that bothers me is the 6720 weighs more than the 6520 despite having no flattop. Still, the 6720 appears to still be lighter than anything else being sold so that may be my answer. Thanks!! Looks like the 6720 is going on the wish list
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have you looked at the balios lite threads here? my first AR was an A2, but after going thru Colt carry handle scopes, aimpoints on goosenecks and handle rails, I'm only running Irons on the A2 scopes need to be lower than a carry handle permits |
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I think Fulton Armory has some LW uppers available. I think one is an A1 upper.
I personally don't think it's bad to put an optic on a carry handle. Especially the ones that have mounts made for carry handles. When you have to put a rail and THEN the optic, that's getting a little too high, IMHO. But still doable. I would think a compact acog in the carry handle is probably one of the sweetest set ups there is. A red dot up there if not overly high, would be sweet too. Those mounts for the micro's seem like a good deal. 
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If weight is the main concern a bcm elw barrel profile and kmr is going to be the lightest ar possible along with a 2a armament upper and lower and ti gas block. I looked at the BCM ELW but it's significantly heavier than the Colt option. The Daniel Defense barrel is even lighter than the BCM but still heavier than the Colt. |
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have you looked at the balios lite threads here?You can build a 4.5 pound AR http://www.2a-arms.com/products/balios-lite my first AR was an A2, but after going thru Colt carry handle scopes, aimpoints on goosenecks and handle rails, I'm only running Irons on the A2 scopes need to be lower than a carry handle permits I've not seen this, thanks. Interesting but will likely be cost prohibitive, however, it's going on the "look at" list. |
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https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_2_5X_Compact_Scope_PAC2_5X_p/pac2.5x.htm
Comes with a mount that works with the carry handle, just buy the optional screw. |
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