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Posted: 4/25/2014 1:10:29 PM EDT
| I'm looking to get some BUIS...I'm currently running just an EOTECH 512...I only go to range and shoot for fun...What decent BUIS do you guys recommend that don't break the bank? I seen the Troy ones but have no desire to spend $200+ for something I'll probably never use. I know there is gonna be alot of opinions, but I'm just looking for decent suggestions and prices...Thanks |
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what does that mean? Lol I'm not up on all these Abbreviations LMT is a manufacturer, they make a BUIS that resembles a chopped Carry handle. EE is the Equipment Exchange, the place on here to buy and sell, see big orange button in top right corner. If you just "go to range and shoot for fun." I'd only put buis on if you enjoy and plan on shooting them, spend your money elsewhere, for the same price as BUIS you could buy a PA micro red dot to use if your eotech goes down for some reason at the range. |
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I recently bought a pair of Magpul MBUS Pro sights and am extremely impressed with them. They are very small and have a very low profile. They take up so little real estate on the upper it allowed me to mount my scope a bit further back than my previous sights allowed me to. Despite being super small they are very solid and sturdy. You can pick up a set for $159 from DSG Arms.
I don't know where I got this pic from but it shows how small they are compared to a set of Magpul Gen 2 MBUS sights. If you aren't going to use your irons very often,the MBUS Pros are great since they take up very little space and won't get in the way of anything....you'll forget they're there. 
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Ever since installing my free float hand guard I've been looking to add a quality set of BUIS.
When I purchased my 6920 it had the standard A2 FSB and a Magpul Gen2 rear. Adding the FF hand guard as I did, I picked up the Magpul Gen2 for the front to complete the set in lightweight polymer. The Magpul Gen2's are OK, but not what I consider rugged. My search continued for something better suited. I'd been researching iron sights extensively when a set of Troy HK's were listed in the EE at a decent price, so I picked them up. I liked everything about the design and quality. Until I was yet to be satisfied. Troy sights (older version) are also riddled with aperture design flaws that limit folding the back one down when switched to the long-range peep. It's nothing that can't be lived with, but I don't like it. So my search continues. KAC, GG&G, Matech, I can't decide. I like the KAC but they have no option for the HK front. 
I would think that someone would figure this "flip up sight" game out considering all the ideas and styles of BUIS that there are out there available. The fact that there is not is mind blowing. |
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Ever since installing my free float hand guard I've been looking to add a quality set of BUIS. When I purchased my 6920 it had the standard A2 FSB and a Magpul Gen2 rear. Adding the FF hand guard as I did, I picked up the Magpul Gen2 for the front to complete the set in lightweight polymer. The Magpul Gen2's are OK, but not what I consider rugged. My search continued for something better suited. I'd been researching iron sights extensively when a set of Troy HK's were listed in the EE at a decent price, so I picked them up. I liked everything about the design and quality. Until I was yet to be satisfied. Troy sights (older version) are also riddled with aperture design flaws that limit folding the back one down when switched to the long-range peep. It's nothing that can't be lived with, but I don't like it. So my search continues. KAC, GG&G, Matech, I can't decide. I like the KAC but they have no option for the HK front.
I would think that someone would figure this "flip up sight" game out considering all the ideas and styles of BUIS that there are out there available. The fact that there is not is mind blowing. Get a set of KAC micros. Trust me, the 2-600m rear sight is the best out there IMO and the front sight has a nice thin post. No tools needed for adjustment, with windage and elevation adjustment on the rear. Plus if you shop around you can find used sets between $150-$175. Thats just my opinion though, I never had a set until i bought a KAC rifle and now I'm ditching all my troys in favor of them. |
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I'm very interested in the diamondhead sights after reading some reviews. Diamond sights are very inviting to a degree. I like the fact that they've went in the direction of the range finding feature on their front sight, but why have they not also done this as a feature of the rear sight? |
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Get a set of KAC micros. Trust me, the 2-600m rear sight is the best out there IMO and the front sight has a nice thin post. No tools needed for adjustment, with windage and elevation adjustment on the rear. Plus if you shop around you can find used sets between $150-$175. Thats just my opinion though, I never had a set until i bought a KAC rifle and now I'm ditching all my troys in favor of them. I feel what you're putting down. Playing guns always gets me frustrated as hell. It's like playing poker at times. This is another (I consider) good rear BUIS MAD Here's the only review I've found on it. The review is long in tooth, but worth a watch. GG&G Multi-Aperture Device (MAD) Back-Up Iron Sight (BUIS) |
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Ever since installing my free float hand guard I've been looking to add a quality set of BUIS. When I purchased my 6920 it had the standard A2 FSB and a Magpul Gen2 rear. Adding the FF hand guard as I did, I picked up the Magpul Gen2 for the front to complete the set in lightweight polymer. The Magpul Gen2's are OK, but not what I consider rugged. My search continued for something better suited. I'd been researching iron sights extensively when a set of Troy HK's were listed in the EE at a decent price, so I picked them up. I liked everything about the design and quality. Until I was yet to be satisfied. Troy sights (older version) are also riddled with aperture design flaws that limit folding the back one down when switched to the long-range peep. It's nothing that can't be lived with, but I don't like it. So my search continues. KAC, GG&G, Matech, I can't decide. I like the KAC but they have no option for the HK front.
I would think that someone would figure this "flip up sight" game out considering all the ideas and styles of BUIS that there are out there available. The fact that there is not is mind blowing. Not rugged? |
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If you try the rather new diamondhead polymers, you'd change your mind. They have my vote for OP. Quoted:
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best budget is Magpul mbus gen 2, hands down. If you try the rather new diamondhead polymers, you'd change your mind. They have my vote for OP. I might if i didnt get Magpul pros.. oh well. |
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Ever since installing my free float hand guard I've been looking to add a quality set of BUIS. When I purchased my 6920 it had the standard A2 FSB and a Magpul Gen2 rear. Adding the FF hand guard as I did, I picked up the Magpul Gen2 for the front to complete the set in lightweight polymer. The Magpul Gen2's are OK, but not what I consider rugged. My search continued for something better suited. I'd been researching iron sights extensively when a set of Troy HK's were listed in the EE at a decent price, so I picked them up. I liked everything about the design and quality. Until I was yet to be satisfied. Troy sights (older version) are also riddled with aperture design flaws that limit folding the back one down when switched to the long-range peep. It's nothing that can't be lived with, but I don't like it. So my search continues. KAC, GG&G, Matech, I can't decide. I like the KAC but they have no option for the HK front.
I would think that someone would figure this "flip up sight" game out considering all the ideas and styles of BUIS that there are out there available. The fact that there is not is mind blowing. Not rugged? Good info. Not to mention a fairly legit test. The commentary below the test review is notable also. Along with more commentary here. ETA: BUIS testing was only done on a select few. To also add, the review is dated in comparison of what's currently available. |
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One of the reasons the Magpul Gen 2 MBUS did so well in the comparison test is that the sights retract when struck or impacted when dropped. They deflect and then pop back up. Heck, in the follow up test, the guy actually used the rifle like an ax, repeatedly slamming it down with overhead swings directly on the front sight. It remained perfectly zeroed when shot. Based on that test, the ONLY sights I will run for backup must deflect rather than lock in the upright position.
My question to all of you preaching the virtues of the other options: Does your sight lock in the upright position or does it deflect? I really don't know for some of them. I'd like to know. Any sight that is rigidly locked in the up position is going to get bent or break if it is hit hard, and will certainly no longer shoot to its previously sighted in POI. The Gen 2 MBUS does. That is a huge plus in my book. |
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One of the reasons the Magpul Gen 2 MBUS did so well in the comparison test is that the sights retract when struck or impacted when dropped. They deflect and then pop back up. Heck, in the follow up test, the guy actually used the rifle like an ax, repeatedly slamming it down with overhead swings directly on the front sight. It remained perfectly zeroed when shot. Based on that test, the ONLY sights I will run for backup must deflect rather than lock in the upright position. My question to all of you preaching the virtues of the other options: Does your sight lock in the upright position or does it deflect? I really don't know for some of them. I'd like to know. Any sight that is rigidly locked in the up position is going to get bent or break if it is hit hard, and will certainly no longer shoot to its previously sighted in POI. The Gen 2 MBUS does. That is a huge plus in my book. the Pro's dont lock up either |
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the Pro's dont lock up either Quoted:
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One of the reasons the Magpul Gen 2 MBUS did so well in the comparison test is that the sights retract when struck or impacted when dropped. They deflect and then pop back up. Heck, in the follow up test, the guy actually used the rifle like an ax, repeatedly slamming it down with overhead swings directly on the front sight. It remained perfectly zeroed when shot. Based on that test, the ONLY sights I will run for backup must deflect rather than lock in the upright position. My question to all of you preaching the virtues of the other options: Does your sight lock in the upright position or does it deflect? I really don't know for some of them. I'd like to know. Any sight that is rigidly locked in the up position is going to get bent or break if it is hit hard, and will certainly no longer shoot to its previously sighted in POI. The Gen 2 MBUS does. That is a huge plus in my book. the Pro's dont lock up either Excellent, especially for mounting on a gas block. |
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Currently I've tried the Magpul Gen2, and the Troy sights. I won't add anymore about the MP Gen2.
The Troy sights do lock in place. But those of you that have them that don't like the fact that they do "lock" in the upright position, this can be eliminated. And they still snap solidly in the up and down position. The button that needs to be pushed to release the lock, moves the wheeled cog off the locking detentes on the other side. There are two of them on each sight. You'll see. Feeling adventurous? Do you want the sights to "move" if bumped? Grind off the two silver tabs behind the wheel. Whatdyaknow, no more having to push the button. Something to think about. 
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Currently I've tried the Magpul Gen2, and the Troy sights. I won't add anymore about the MP Gen2. The Troy sights do lock in place. But those of you that have them that don't like the fact that they do "lock" in the upright position, this can be eliminated. And they still snap solidly in the up and down position. The button that needs to be pushed to release the lock, moves the wheeled cog off the locking detentes on the other side. There are two of them on each sight. You'll see. Feeling adventurous? Do you want the sights to "move" if bumped? Grind off the two silver tabs behind the wheel. Whatdyaknow, no more having to push the button. Something to think about. So people have to grind (twice) on the Troy to make it comparable in ruggedness to the much less expensive Magpul MBUS 2? That's laughable. I can see that if you already sadly drank the Troy Kool Aid, but not for a new purchase. |
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Quoted: So people have to grind (twice) on the Troy to make it comparable in ruggedness to the much less expensive Magpul MBUS 2? That's laughable. I can see that if you already sadly drank the Troy Kool Aid, but not for a new purchase. Quoted: Quoted: Currently I've tried the Magpul Gen2, and the Troy sights. I won't add anymore about the MP Gen2. The Troy sights do lock in place. But those of you that have them that don't like the fact that they do "lock" in the upright position, this can be eliminated. And they still snap solidly in the up and down position. The button that needs to be pushed to release the lock, moves the wheeled cog off the locking detentes on the other side. There are two of them on each sight. You'll see. Feeling adventurous? Do you want the sights to "move" if bumped? Grind off the two silver tabs behind the wheel. Whatdyaknow, no more having to push the button. Something to think about. So people have to grind (twice) on the Troy to make it comparable in ruggedness to the much less expensive Magpul MBUS 2? That's laughable. I can see that if you already sadly drank the Troy Kool Aid, but not for a new purchase. No more having to push the button. Ever. KISS ETA: I unknowingly drank the Troy koolaid. Used, in a dirty glass. I could easily sell them, but won't. This is why I looked into removing the pins. My modification works. And very nicely. I highly recommend if you already have these sights to try it. It took me about 15 minutes to remove the pins from a set. |
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For those who already have the Troy sights and would like to modify them so the unlock button doesn't need to be pushed, here's a short video after doing the mod. View My Video |
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