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1/4/2014 5:03:54 AM EDT
I currently have a Triji 2.5-10x 56 scope on my hunting rig. It is amazing in low light ! One of the best scopes I've used. Problem is its a little big n heavy. I'm currently building a lightweight AR hunting rig and want a smaller, lighter package. Does anyone know of a smaller lighter scope that can compare to the big Triji ? Ild like to keep my budget around $600  
Tks for your help
1/4/2014 7:47:05 AM EDT
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Leupold VX-R Patrol 3-9x40mm.  30mm main tube.  FireDot TMR low profile mil/mil turrets.  Very good, bright glass.  Weighs 15.6 ounces.

While no 40mm objective is a substitute for good 56mm objective lens in low light, this is good glass  (VX 3) and is very light.  The FireDot  helps a lot at dawn and dusk.  $600 shipped from most vendors.  You'll need a good cantilever mount for it, perhaps LaRue SPR, LT-104.
1/4/2014 8:23:09 AM EDT
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Triji's scopes are legendary for their low-light capability, matching it will be a challenge.  What I'd suggest for close, but much lighters, would be a 2-7x Leupold VX-R ... or even one of the 2-7 Ultralights.  IMO Leupold makes the best 2-7's on the market, very light weight, quality optics.  I just wish they had a better reticle.  At least with the VX-R you get the Firedot, and some of their BDC reticles can be useful if you take the time to figure out how it matches up with your rifle.
1/4/2014 9:29:23 AM EDT
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Swarovski Z3 3-9x36. /thread
1/4/2014 1:36:03 PM EDT
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That would be a winner for a bright, light, hunting optic ... can it be had for around $600?
1/4/2014 3:38:05 PM EDT
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Probably of you call around.
1/5/2014 9:08:31 AM EDT
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Thanks for all the response. I like the idea of the Leupy with the light reticle.
I have my Triji  in a Larue mount and love it. It's a little expensive though. I've been looking at the SWFA SSALT. It has inserts for  1" scopes as well.
The Z3 it's just a little too expensive at $800.
1/5/2014 12:28:30 PM EDT
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Thanks for all the response. I like the idea of the Leupy with the light reticle.
I have my Triji  in a Larue mount and love it. It's a little expensive though. I've been looking at the SWFA SSALT. It has inserts for  1" scopes as well.
The Z3 it's just a little too expensive at $800.
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Great choice for Leupold VX-R.  Z3s have some reliability issues, and Austrian glass notwithstanding, a 36mm objective at 9x in low light is marginal and not very forgiving for eye placement.  I have a Kahles 2-7x36mm (owned by Swarvoski) that I think is brighter at the same power settings as the Z3, although it is heavier.  Truly amazing glass, but pricey and heavy.
1/5/2014 3:48:46 PM EDT
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I curious what problems you've personally seen with the Z3?
1/5/2014 8:14:36 PM EDT
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Seen several of them returned for warranty work owned by several hunting buddies.  Both the AV and Z3 which I understand to be identical internally.  I have a good friend that sells them.  He says the same thing.  Their higher end glass is superb, however.  Their problems seem to be recoil related and sensitivity to the ordinary bumps and knocks of field use causing zero shift.  I don't own one personally.  The people I know who owned them like the glass, but complain about reliability. One has switched to Zeiss Conquest and is happy.  They are making the one inch tube models in the US as Kahles did before running into its own quality issues in their US factory and moved everything back to Austria.  I speculate that maybe Swarovski is having similar work force problems with their US line.
1/6/2014 8:34:54 AM EDT
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Seen several of them returned for warranty work owned by several hunting buddies.  Both the AV and Z3 which I understand to be identical internally.  I have a good friend that sells them.  He says the same thing.  Their higher end glass is superb, however.  Their problems seem to be recoil related and sensitivity to the ordinary bumps and knocks of field use causing zero shift.  I don't own one personally.  The people I know who owned them like the glass, but complain about reliability. One has switched to Zeiss Conquest and is happy.  They are making the one inch tube models in the US as Kahles did before running into its own quality issues in their US factory and moved everything back to Austria.  I speculate that maybe Swarovski is having similar work force problems with their US line.
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Seen several of them returned for warranty work owned by several hunting buddies.  Both the AV and Z3 which I understand to be identical internally.  I have a good friend that sells them.  He says the same thing.  Their higher end glass is superb, however.  Their problems seem to be recoil related and sensitivity to the ordinary bumps and knocks of field use causing zero shift.  I don't own one personally.  The people I know who owned them like the glass, but complain about reliability. One has switched to Zeiss Conquest and is happy.  They are making the one inch tube models in the US as Kahles did before running into its own quality issues in their US factory and moved everything back to Austria.  I speculate that maybe Swarovski is having similar work force problems with their US line.


I've heard pretty much the same report about the Zeiss Conquest line.
1/6/2014 10:13:50 AM EDT
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Tag.


1/9/2014 1:14:17 PM EDT
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Any other suggestions ? I have some free time on my hands to do a little research.  It will be a few more months before I have my barrel for my new build.
1/9/2014 1:41:44 PM EDT
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Look into the Aero Precision Ultralight mount to lighten things up also. 2.8 ounces, around $80.
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