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12/17/2013 10:25:47 AM EDT
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12/17/2013 10:28:47 AM EDT
[#1]


Why would you need to?
12/17/2013 10:30:17 AM EDT
[#2]
mainly it's the first thing i want to grab when carrying
12/17/2013 10:45:47 AM EDT
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Considering you're not even supposed to use the "carry handle" as a "carry handle" I would say "no".  

The A1 and A2 receivers only had the "carry handle" because it protected the finger cocking lever in the original AR10 designs. When it was decided the cocking-slot was a risk for too much dirt or FOD for military acceptance and they went to the T-charging handle over the rear of the receiver extension/buffer tube/stock, the "carry handle" stayed partly out of inertia, partly because it was somewhat stronger and protected the rear sight tower a bit, and there were already some scope mounts for the design.

I know the FAL has an honest-to-God carry handle, but I'm unclear as to why or when someone in combat would ever need to carry their rifle like a suitcase. I was never in the military, but it's my understanding that the Drill Instructors of every service would smoke you if caught carrying an AR/M16 family rifle that way.

12/17/2013 10:47:47 AM EDT
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Considering you're not even supposed to use the "carry handle" as a "carry handle" I would say "no".  

The A1 and A2 receivers only had the "carry handle" because it protected the finger cocking lever in the original AR10 designs. When it was decided the cocking-slot was a risk for too much dirt or FOD for military acceptance and they went to the T-charging handle over the rear of the receiver extension/buffer tube/stock, the "carry handle" stayed partly out of inertia, partly because it was somewhat stronger and protected the rear sight tower a bit, and there were already some scope mounts for the design.



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Considering you're not even supposed to use the "carry handle" as a "carry handle" I would say "no".  

The A1 and A2 receivers only had the "carry handle" because it protected the finger cocking lever in the original AR10 designs. When it was decided the cocking-slot was a risk for too much dirt or FOD for military acceptance and they went to the T-charging handle over the rear of the receiver extension/buffer tube/stock, the "carry handle" stayed partly out of inertia, partly because it was somewhat stronger and protected the rear sight tower a bit, and there were already some scope mounts for the design.





This.

"Carry handles" are not carry handles.
12/17/2013 10:48:29 AM EDT
[#5]
First thing I grab is either hand guard or pistol grip.  Logic dictates to me I am grabbing my rifle to use it not carry it and if I am carrying it I am slinging and hands still go to corresponding spot on rifle where I shot from.

AR's are not handbags/purses/european man purse for those of you who have them.... they are rifles.
12/17/2013 10:52:24 AM EDT
[#6]
That's what I wanted to know. Especially since I've never carried any other rifle by the scope. Thanks
12/17/2013 11:33:05 AM EDT
[#7]
I have some on carry handles and like it.  You can get older colt scopes or hakko scopes.  Not sure about anyone else making them other than Eyals.....
12/17/2013 11:50:52 AM EDT
[#8]
Ok I'll be the dissenting opinion here... Scopes are relatively heavy, and keeping them in perfect, repeatable allignment requires strong rings.  Because I trust my rings and the construction of my Leupy VX-R I pick the rifle up with it all the time.  I dont "carry" it with it, but feel no aversion to lifting the weight of the rifle using the scope.  I'm thinking that there is far more g-force applied by heavier-caliber weapons that my rings and scope were designed for, so lifting the AR (even with the pig mine is) with it doesn't scare me in the least.  If I had ever experienced a POI shift or anything that gave me an indication this was bad I'd (of course) avoid doing this, but you picking my rifle up by the scope will not get a reaction out of me.  I'm not going to grab it and jog with it like that, habitually it's a lift-then-sling affair, but still, no issues personally whatsoever.
12/17/2013 12:00:32 PM EDT
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12/17/2013 1:50:31 PM EDT
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12/17/2013 1:53:04 PM EDT
[#11]
I see a lot of no's.  Why not?  What issue do you actually think will come up if you do it?

12/17/2013 2:19:16 PM EDT
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I received one of these as a present, why would anyone buy a man one of these...FOR-THE-LOVE-OF-GOD!!!

12/17/2013 6:19:17 PM EDT
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I received one of these as a present, why would anyone buy a man one of these...FOR-THE-LOVE-OF-GOD!!!

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I received one of these as a present, why would anyone buy a man one of these...FOR-THE-LOVE-OF-GOD!!!



Maybe they are trying to tell you something...?
12/17/2013 6:50:22 PM EDT
[#14]
contestant for 13er post of the year?
probably not, but The resulting thread would be cool.
someone put this together!
12/18/2013 2:28:15 PM EDT
[#15]
You can buy one of those carry handles like the ones on the FALs.  Looks a little goofy
12/18/2013 4:29:36 PM EDT
[#16]
I dont even use the "carry handle: as a carry handle.

While the scope might be tough enough, and the mount as well... the problem co,es from the lack of good purchase for your grip. You are more likely to drop the weapon. Also the fact that you could unknowingly bump the turrets if they are target type.
12/18/2013 6:28:50 PM EDT
[#17]
My question is answered. Not a good idea.
12/18/2013 7:27:24 PM EDT
[#18]
Heh, I never used the carry handle as a carry handle.  Why not?  Poor form, rifle not ready for use if carrying that way, if the caps are off- may finger smudge lens, get made fun of, all my DIs would hunt me down and kill me...
12/18/2013 7:43:37 PM EDT
[#19]
Invest in a sling
12/19/2013 5:14:55 AM EDT
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Considering you're not even supposed to use the "carry handle" as a "carry handle" I would say "no".  

The A1 and A2 receivers only had the "carry handle" because it protected the finger cocking lever in the original AR10 designs. When it was decided the cocking-slot was a risk for too much dirt or FOD for military acceptance and they went to the T-charging handle over the rear of the receiver extension/buffer tube/stock, the "carry handle" stayed partly out of inertia, partly because it was somewhat stronger and protected the rear sight tower a bit, and there were already some scope mounts for the design.

I know the FAL has an honest-to-God carry handle, but I'm unclear as to why or when someone in combat would ever need to carry their rifle like a suitcase. I was never in the military, but it's my understanding that the Drill Instructors of every service would smoke you if caught carrying an AR/M16 family rifle that way.

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Considering you're not even supposed to use the "carry handle" as a "carry handle" I would say "no".  

The A1 and A2 receivers only had the "carry handle" because it protected the finger cocking lever in the original AR10 designs. When it was decided the cocking-slot was a risk for too much dirt or FOD for military acceptance and they went to the T-charging handle over the rear of the receiver extension/buffer tube/stock, the "carry handle" stayed partly out of inertia, partly because it was somewhat stronger and protected the rear sight tower a bit, and there were already some scope mounts for the design.

I know the FAL has an honest-to-God carry handle, but I'm unclear as to why or when someone in combat would ever need to carry their rifle like a suitcase. I was never in the military, but it's my understanding that the Drill Instructors of every service would smoke you if caught carrying an AR/M16 family rifle that way.



Quote from one of my Basic Training Drill Sergeants-
"Hey Private, does that weapon say Samsonite on it anywhere?"
Private searches every inch of the rifle for the next 2 minutes.
"No Drill sergeant!"
"Then stop carrying it like a freaking suitcase!!"


12/19/2013 6:54:49 AM EDT
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Quote from one of my Basic Training Drill Sergeants-

"Hey Private, does that weapon say Samsonite on it anywhere?"

Private searches every inch of the rifle for the next 2 minutes.

"No Drill sergeant!"

"Then stop carrying it like a freaking suitcase!!"





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Considering you're not even supposed to use the "carry handle" as a "carry handle" I would say "no".



The A1 and A2 receivers only had the "carry handle" because it protected the finger cocking lever in the original AR10 designs. When it was decided the cocking-slot was a risk for too much dirt or FOD for military acceptance and they went to the T-charging handle over the rear of the receiver extension/buffer tube/stock, the "carry handle" stayed partly out of inertia, partly because it was somewhat stronger and protected the rear sight tower a bit, and there were already some scope mounts for the design.



I know the FAL has an honest-to-God carry handle, but I'm unclear as to why or when someone in combat would ever need to carry their rifle like a suitcase. I was never in the military, but it's my understanding that the Drill Instructors of every service would smoke you if caught carrying an AR/M16 family rifle that way.







Quote from one of my Basic Training Drill Sergeants-

"Hey Private, does that weapon say Samsonite on it anywhere?"

Private searches every inch of the rifle for the next 2 minutes.

"No Drill sergeant!"

"Then stop carrying it like a freaking suitcase!!"











"Samsonite! I was WAY off."
12/20/2013 10:24:32 AM EDT
[#22]
Grab the delta ring,, aka arwea right in front of the upper,,, beginning of ypurhandguard, that's how we were taught to hold it
12/22/2013 9:05:56 AM EDT
[#23]
you can also carry a woman like a bowling ball but I wouldnt suggest it. some things just dont need to be done and its common sense. if you rely on your scope to remain zeroed then every time its bumped should worry you.
12/22/2013 1:30:52 PM EDT
[#24]
No.  Don't do it.  That's why your rifle has sling attachment points.  Get a sling.
12/22/2013 3:32:59 PM EDT
[#25]
your rifle and scope, carry it the way you want.
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