AR Sponsor
Posted: 11/20/2013 10:57:46 AM EDT
|
Hello everyone i was looking into getting a upgrade for my ar and wanted to get an eotech. I was looking at the exps2 model. However i was curious to see your opinion on the 2 dot system vs the 1 dot system. One half of me says keep it simple you don't want too much confusing your eye in cqb but another half says it would be nice to have a dot for longer distances. I eventually wanted to get a magnifier and it would be nice to take it out longer range. But i figured that they way an eotech is designed with the 65 moa ring you could probably figure out where to hold. Im leaning toward the 1 dot but i wanted to see what you guys say.
Thanks for your input |
|
Quoted:
Hello everyone i was looking into getting a upgrade for my ar and wanted to get an eotech. I was looking at the exps2 model. However i was curious to see your opinion on the 2 dot system vs the 1 dot system. One half of me says keep it simple you don't want too much confusing your eye in cqb but another half says it would be nice to have a dot for longer distances. I eventually wanted to get a magnifier and it would be nice to take it out longer range. But i figured that they way an eotech is designed with the 65 moa ring you could probably figure out where to hold. Im leaning toward the 1 dot but i wanted to see what you guys say. Thanks for your input The "-0" or "A65" or 65 MOA ring with 1 MOA dot is the only reticule really worth having, IMHO. Others disagree, of course, and this is only my personal opinion. The 65 MOA ring can be used for ranging, and your offsets are going to be slightly different based on load, caliber, and barrel length, IMHO, the second dot, or series of dots, or the "T" or single dot, or biohazard reticule does very little to make using the EOTech easier or better, but does clutter up the otherwise fantastic, easy to use, and lightning fast "circle dot." 
~Augee |
|
Quoted:
couldn't agree with you more but i was more wondering about this http://www.gunsumerreports.com/EOTech_XPS2-2/EOTech_XPS2-2_23_tn.JPG vs. a standard eotech with only 1 dot Like I said, my personal opinion is that it does nothing to make the EOTech faster or easier to use, but adds clutter to the reticule - yes, even the addition of the one dot. One of the benefits of the EOTech reticule, IMHO, is that most people's eyes are naturally inclined to "center" objects within a circle, the same principle works with ghost-ring apertures, diopter sights, scope parallax, ect. The addition of another dot does nothing but draw your eye away from what your eye's natural tendency is to do. If it was a "true" calibrated BDC, matched to barrel length, load, and caliber, it would be one thing, but it's just kind of a rough "average," and you'd need to learn your own offsets anyways. ~Augee |
|
I have an non-E XPS 2-2 on a low damage industries rail mounted to my PS90 SBR. I use the low dot not as a BDC but as a "close in" holdover POI.
The height over bore is so nuts on a standard railed PS90 that having the second dot is helpful to a degree, but not for its intended purpose. I bought the 2-2 for exactly how I use it. I would NOT however buy one for my regular AR. I rarely shoot anything beyond 50 yards with an EOTech and prefer something with some power beyond that. I have a normal 512.A65 on my AUG A3 and I love it. |
|
How far do you intend to shoot to? I have an EXPS3-0. I was thinking of purchasing a magnifier too. Ultimately, I think the Eotech is only good out to 300 yards, with or without a magnifier. If you want to shoot further, get a variable scope. If you need to ID the target, get a variable scope or magnifier, but the magnifier is not worth the added cost or weight to me just to be able to ID something. I'm a civilian so take that for what it's worth. I'm getting a variable scope as my next optic. The ranging ability of 65MOA circle is cool, but you still need to figure out holdovers past 300 yards, which I have not figured out how to do and most targets do not present themselves standing 5'4". Mostly I imagine you'll shoot IPSC size targets or 24" x 12" targets. It's not easy to determine holdover without references or unknown references. The second dot at least provides a known reference.
|
| i agree, youll see guys on youtube hittng steel plates at 500 yard with irons but in reality you have no positive ID on your target, magnifier is good for having a positive ID, but ultimately the shooter will extend the range more than the magnifier will, but a scope will be your best friend at identifying targets at long range |
AR Sponsor