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1/1/2013 8:57:36 PM EDT
I was planning on buying an optic for my rifle this weekend, and decided to check out an ACOG (I think it was TA31F). I looked at one at a local gun store, and only saw a small red dot in the scope. I had read about the Binden Aiming Concept (specifically that you can use both eyes open with an ACOG), and while I was messing around the Chevron and Bullet Drop Compensator appeared - practically before my eyes. It was a little offputting, so I asked my little brother to look through the scope (also has zero experience with ACOGs). I asked if he saw a little red dot, or a chevron, and he couldn't see the chevron. I tried to coach him to look at the wall with both eyes open (I really didn't know anything about why the chevron wasn't clearly visible at all times), and eventually he said he saw the chevron. The salesman that got the optic out of the case for me didn't know much about it, and the other salesmen were all busy.

Was this a problem with eye relief or angle? The optic wasn't mounted on a scope. I have narrowed my choice down to this ACOG or an EOTech with a magnifier, and I have no resources to try out the ACOG on a weapon before purchasing. It really didn't seem like an angle of view problem because there was a small red dot in the center, and when I looked away from the scope I could see everything crystal clear - but I didn't play with it long enough to even form a guess on what was happening. Any ideas? Anyone have anything to add concerning using an ACOG for CQB or quick transitioning versus a reflex site?
1/1/2013 9:04:04 PM EDT
[#1]
the ta31 has very short eye relief.  focus at short range is also more difficult.  (these being your issues at the store).  The ACOG is great at distances from 50 to 400yd.   Can it do cqb?  Yes, but it is not optimal.  do a search here, there have been quite a few threads on it....some fairly heated.
1/1/2013 9:13:52 PM EDT
[#2]
Both eyes open you'll be using it in "reflex" mode utilizing the bindon aiming concept.  When you close your non dominant eye your dominant eye will focus on the reticle and you will be able to utilize the chevron and drop compensation.

I have no trouble using it as a reflex, but I will admit that my aimpoints work better for this being as they are dedicated for this use.
1/2/2013 2:32:06 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks guys. I really like the quality and look of the ACOG (The glass was superb), and for what I do with the gun at the moment, a mid range setup would be more appropriate. If I keep getting better with the gun  though, I may consider doing some competition, and of course if I ever need it for Home Defense, it wouldn't be a mid-range engagement. I'm thinking that an EOTech + magnifier is the prudent optic to buy this time.

I've read a ton of threads about the ACOG vs. Reflex site, and I've went through the stickied threads on each as well. The only reason I made an account on this forum was for the search function. It's something that always falls back on preference, and unfortunately I can't get the opportunity to test it before I buy.
1/4/2013 12:25:58 AM EDT
[#4]
Well,

My option on most of my cqb multi use ar's

The ta31f-rmr...

Best of both worlds...reflex and an acog with bdc...

Bret
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