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11/1/2010 9:42:49 AM EDT
Anybody do anything special to avoid scope mount marks on scope?
11/1/2010 11:57:30 AM EDT
[#1]
Lapping your rings can improve contact and reduce or eliminate scope marks. Lapping may not advised on your higher quality, newer rings.
11/1/2010 6:14:56 PM EDT
[#2]
I recently went through this too.  I just bought a new Nightforce and a couple of weeks ago, I picked up a Swarovski Z5 and preferred not to mark them up.  The Leupold rings that I tried didn't leave a mark on either of them, nor did the Burris Signature Zee.  Oddly enough, both my ADM mount and the Larue that I used to have left marks on my last scope.
11/2/2010 3:15:31 AM EDT
[#3]
Leave it in the box and never mount it.

11/2/2010 5:04:25 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Leave it in the box and never mount it.



I know, seriously. I don't understand this thread
11/2/2010 5:10:45 AM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:


Leave it in the box and never mount it.





Dam it! You just made me shoot coffee out my nose.  LOL

 
11/2/2010 5:33:14 AM EDT
[#6]
It helps the re-sale value. How hard is that to understand!
11/2/2010 6:17:47 AM EDT
[#7]
I understand the issue.  Until recently, I thought that ring marks were an unavoidable thing.  It's turns out that it isn't.  I don't blame the OP for asking the question and I've been watching the thread for responses with new info.  It really sucks to have expensive scopes that are absolutely pristeen except for the ring marks.
11/2/2010 7:49:00 AM EDT
[#8]
Maybe the others who don't understand only buy chinese made crap.
11/2/2010 7:51:26 AM EDT
[#9]
Most folks over torque the ring screws which can lead to deformed scope tubes & ring marks… I know I did until I purchased a torque wrench. Following the mount/ring manufactures’ instructions as far as lapping goes is a safe bet.
11/2/2010 10:09:59 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Maybe the others who don't understand only buy chinese made crap.


I think it is more along the lines that most of us who buy scopes actually plan on using them, not reselling them after mounted.

Don't overtorque the screws on the mount/rings and assuming they are decent rings that align you shouldn't have any issues.

11/2/2010 10:48:55 AM EDT
[#11]
This is what I use to mount a scope correctly

Wheeler Engineering Scope Kit from Midway USA
Wheeler Engineering FAT Wrench from Midway USA
Midway also sells these 2 together as a complete kit
Scope Grip (rosin) from Mounting Solutions Plus
11/2/2010 12:13:08 PM EDT
[#12]
Electrical tape cut to the bottom and top pieces of the rings.
11/2/2010 12:17:36 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Electrical tape cut to the bottom and top pieces of the rings.


I wouldn't use electrical tape with any kind of precision mount or rings
11/2/2010 12:37:09 PM EDT
[#14]
I do wonder why it is that some mounts/rings leave marks and others don't.  I install all of my scopes using the proper torque and some setups leave marks and others don't.  Is it due to a slight misalignment?
11/2/2010 12:42:45 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Electrical tape cut to the bottom and top pieces of the rings.


I wouldn't use electrical tape with any kind of precision mount or rings


Why is that?
And I'm not challenging it, just want to know what I'm missing.

11/2/2010 6:04:31 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Electrical tape cut to the bottom and top pieces of the rings.


I wouldn't use electrical tape with any kind of precision mount or rings


Why is that?
And I'm not challenging it, just want to know what I'm missing.



Because higher quality mounts are machined to very precise dimensions, so it's seems to me that adding tape or other material would defeat the purpose of the precision.  This is not to mention it would change the coefficient of friction between the optic and mount, and perhaps not hold it in place as well. I could be wrong though.

I'd be curious as to what the folks over at LaRue would say about using tape with their mounts.
11/2/2010 6:09:25 PM EDT
[#17]
I can see that the added thickness could cause an issue. I bought a scope mount with some Millet rings on it that had electrical tape in them. I asked the guy why. He told me to keep ring marks off the scope.
I left it on. Never noticed a problem.
That's why a I asked. Thought maybe something I was missing.
Dave
11/2/2010 6:49:22 PM EDT
[#18]
Anything less is horseshit.



Why yes,  I am technically correct.
11/2/2010 6:56:07 PM EDT
[#19]
Definetly a tool I need.
11/3/2010 6:11:05 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Anything less is horseshit.

http://www.restockit.com/images/Product/medium/577-6104.jpg

Why yes,  I am technically correct.


What exactly is that?
11/3/2010 7:00:52 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Anything less is horseshit.

http://www.restockit.com/images/Product/medium/577-6104.jpg

Why yes,  I am technically correct.


What exactly is that?

torque wrench

11/4/2010 5:52:44 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Anything less is horseshit.

http://www.restockit.com/images/Product/medium/577-6104.jpg

Why yes,  I am technically correct.


What exactly is that?

torque wrench



Oh yeah, dugh..
11/4/2010 8:55:39 AM EDT
[#23]
Assembled properly, and our mounts / rings leave no marks on a scope tube.

Video link
11/4/2010 9:40:07 AM EDT
[#24]
Almost all marked scopes from quality rings are the result of over-tightening. Almost every scope I remove from a rifle is way over-tightened. The vast majority of these were mounted by "professional gunsmiths" or gun stores. One guy had a Nightforce that the rings were so tight on that the outside edges had no gap. I broke several torx wrenches trying to remove the screws. The elevation adjustment would not work until the rings were loosened.
11/4/2010 9:46:03 AM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:


Almost all marked scopes from quality rings are the result of over-tightening. Almost every scope I remove from a rifle is way over-tightened. The vast majority of these were mounted by "professional gunsmiths" or gun stores. One guy had a Nightforce that the rings were so tight on that the outside edges had no gap. I broke several torx wrenches trying to remove the screws. The elevation adjustment would not work until the rings were loosened.


I've seen the same thing many times.







 
11/4/2010 10:01:27 AM EDT
[#26]
I use the burring signature zee rings with the plastic inserts.  The added benefit is that you can get them with offset so you don't need to buy a special base.  Now they may not be as high speed as some of the other mounts, but if you are going to avoid any scratches on the scope you won't be jumping out of helicopters with it anyways.  

There is nothing wrong with trying to preserve the resale value of a scope/rifle or other gear especially when new.  If after a couple of months you don't like it you won't take as big a bath when you want to trade it for something else.
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