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Posted: 4/23/2010 12:11:34 PM EDT
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I have a 7.62 LWRC REPR with the 18" (DMR) barrel and I'm looking to put some glass on it, to shoot from 100-800 yards. I'm pretty much set on one of Nightforce's 2.5-10x32 scopes with the Velocity reticle.
Currently, their Velocity reticles go up to 600 yards. I recently saw some ads where they have some new models.that can go out to 1000 yards, but haven't seen any for sale anywhere. Anyone have any experience with these reticles? I know Pride Fowler has a Rapid Reticle and it has some great reviews, and Smith Enterprise uses them on the Crazy Horse M14's. There are some other companies who offer similar setups. I've read reviews where the reticle is great for moving targets such as coyotes, who don't sit still and give you time to dial in. I want to basically set it and forget it, instead of dialing in the range. I figure I can use a laser range finder and just use the corresponding reticle, and shoot. I was thinking of getting the capped turrets, because what need would there to be to have any type of target turret. The zero-stop is another thing I could probably do without, but I was wondering if you could set it up for one cartridge such as 168 Gold Medal Match, and then figure out the dope for ball ammo. That way you could use the dope for ball (plinking/practice) and be able to set it back when using the primary load that you sighted it in with. Any info is greatly appreciated! 
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I have the same plan as you. Get the one load specific ret w/zero stop than just adj. for any other loads I might want to shoot. A freind of mine has this and out to 600 yrds with 556 he is only off less than an inch. Hope this helps. Sounds good. I figure I can set up the scope for whatever factory ammo shoots the best (which is also what I'll use for the best accuracy), and can set up the dope for anything else I want to shoot. Otherwise I'd have to jump back and forth with the setting which would probably be a pain. I've heard good things about the accuracy with these type of reticles. I'm not looking to put every bullet in the same hole, but want to be able to hit a man-sized target at different ranges without having to be a math wiz.
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II was on the phone with our Nightforce rep two days ago and he says June for more Velocity reticles. Add 12 weeks for the build time before we get them. Marshall Sounds good. I'm still saving up right now anyway. I had to spend some of my scope funds on some new turkey hunting gear for May 1st. 
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| I just bought a 2.5-10X32 from Sport Optics. I got the medium velocity reticle without zero stop turrets. The guy at the shop said that the zero stop is handy for being able to keep multiple zeros on hand. I opted not to get it because I wanted caps. The good thing is that Nightforce will change reticles and add zero stop, for a charge. I think it was around $400 to do both or maybe that was $200 each and maybe a break if you get both done at once. I don't remember. If the velocity reticle doesn't work out the way I'm hoping it will, I'm going to have it converted to an NP-1 reticle with zero stop. The velocity reticle seems a little busy to me, but I haven't spent enough quality time with it to make a judgement call yet. |
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TonyAngel,
Give us a range report when you get the chance. I was looking at the capped turrets as well, since it's cheaper.. I may have to reconsider if I can set the zero-stop for 168 Gold Medal Match, that way I can make up dope cards for anything else I wanted to shoot. I copied this from Smith Enterprise's website, the US Army Test and Evaluation Report of the Pride Fowler Rapid Reticle Scope on the M14, 11 May 2006. The Pride Fowler scope has a similar reticle to the Nightforce Velocity reticle. Though a different reticle would probably be better for a sniper, this setup doesn't seem too bad for a dedicated DMR. DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY HEADQUARTERS, AND HEADQUARTERS COMPANY 1ST BATTALION-501ST INFANTRY (AIRBORNE) 724 POSTAL SERVICE LOOP # 8200 FORT RICHARDSON, ALASKA 99505-6250 APVR-ABNA-HHC May 11, 2006 MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD SUBJECT: Rapid Reticle Scope on the M14 1. While at Ft. Greely, we tested the Pride and Fowler, RR800 scope on the M14. We Zeroed the rifle at the 100 meter line of the Known Distance Range, and zeroed it with in 10 minutes and 4 shot groups from being completely off paper to center mass. 2. We then went straight to the 500 meter line and the same shooter that zeroed the M14 shot 10 rounds and all 10 were center mass. We then had 10 inexperienced shooters, shoot 10 round groups using the 500 meter pin with calm winds and hit center mass, with out changing the zero. 3. Then to the 600 meter line and let the same 10 shooters shoot again, but this time with a 5 knot full value wind using the 600 meter pin and the first wind knock, again center mass. The wind then picked up to 15 knots and one of the snipers fired it using the 3rd wind knock on the 600 meter pin, and yet again, dead on center mass. 4. This process continued to the 700, 800, 1000, and the 1200 meter lines, this time the experienced shooters were shooting and making their wind calls. At the 800 meter, they had to use a small high hold off, this was probably due to the rifle that they were shooting, but they were still able to hit center mass. At the 1000 and 1200 meter marks, they gathered their DOPE, which varied slightly from the manufacture data, and could dial in multiple shots by manipulating from zero and then back to zero after each group. 5. This scope was also jumped twice, mounted to the rifle. No issue with it holding it’s zero at all, and no damage to the scope at all. 6. Comments from everyone that shot with the scope said that the reticle is very user friendly and not too busy. Every one was completely shocked about how accurate the data on the reticle was, for both distance and windage. Some of the guys have their own personal M14 are going to order this scope for their rifles, as soon as we return home. This best thing about these scopes were that a platoon marksman or a sniper’s spotter and engage targets out to 800 meters with wind quickly and with out having to calculate adjustments. All the shooter has to do is estimate range and make a wind call, use the proper stedia and wind knock, and squeeze the trigger. 7. These scopes are recommended for our M14’s that our spotters and platoon designated marksmen are shooting. They are also not a bad idea for the M24 for the movement into position, this would enable the sniper to make a quick and accurate shot if needed. 8. POC for this memorandum is the undersigned at 384-0759. THOMAS E. CAMPBELL SFC, USA BN MASTER MARKSMAN |
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