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1/1/2010 4:16:19 PM EDT
I am trying to figure out what optic I want to put on my carbine.
I like the ACOGs, but like some others don't know how useful the tritium would be. If it's that dark i will be using a light. The tritium is also expensive to replace when it goes out. I don't think the fiberoptic daytime would be something I would like either.
The Trijicon Accu Point scopes have the same tritium "problems".
I would like a short scope like the ACOG without the illumination. If possible I would like a mil-dot reticle but that isn't necessary.

I doubt I will ever take a shot over 300 yards. Would a reddot scope with a 2moa dot be accurate enough at up to that range? I would like some magnification for my old eyes.
Are my choices now limited to something like an Aimpoint with a magnifier, or is there something like a non illuminated ACOG?

Jim
1/1/2010 5:01:52 PM EDT
[#1]



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I am trying to figure out what optic I want to put on my carbine.

I like the ACOGs, but like some others don't know how useful the tritium would be. If it's that dark i will be using a light. The tritium is also expensive to replace when it goes out. I don't think the fiberoptic daytime would be something I would like either.

The Trijicon Accu Point scopes have the same tritium "problems".

I would like a short scope like the ACOG without the illumination. If possible I would like a mil-dot reticle but that isn't necessary.



I doubt I will ever take a shot over 300 yards. Would a reddot scope with a 2moa dot be accurate enough at up to that range? I would like some magnification for my old eyes.

Are my choices now limited to something like an Aimpoint with a magnifier, or is there something like a non illuminated ACOG?



Jim
Maybe a Leupold 1x-4x or similar compacxt low magnification scope with or without illumination.





 
1/1/2010 5:05:05 PM EDT
[#2]
Then don't replace the tritium when it runs out, with its half life at 12 years, it'll be a long time before you have to worry about it.
As to mildot on a 4x, had it on my S&B Short Dot, didn't care for it, pretty useless for a 4X optic I think.
1/1/2010 5:17:35 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks. That's the kind of input I need.
If I just don't replace the tritium when it burns out I wonder if it would be worth the search to find a used one already burned out- if it's cheap enough.

As for mildot reticle on a low power scope- that makes sense. I want a useful reticle though. I like the horseshoe reticle. How dependant is it on illumination?

How hard is it to use the illuminated reticles during the day- the fiber-optic illuminated? Is precision that much more difficult than a "regular" crosshair reticle?

Jim
1/1/2010 5:31:30 PM EDT
[#4]
Elcan?

Oh wait that is even more expensive than the ACOG!
1/1/2010 5:37:29 PM EDT
[#5]
Also good luck getting the ELCAN's tritium replaced
1/1/2010 5:45:01 PM EDT
[#6]
I keep coming back to getting what I pay for. ACOGs are good quality optics. If they just didn't cost almost as much as my rifle I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.

Jim
1/1/2010 5:53:13 PM EDT
[#7]
Keep looking for it on EE, TA01 can be found around $650 or so
1/1/2010 6:01:52 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Keep looking for it on EE, TA01 can be found around $650 or so


That would be doable. I have nearly another $1k to spend, but I need a bipod, more mags, some ammo until I start loading .223, a soft case, etc.
I have a C-More on it right now, and when I get a riser block or high rings I also have a few Leupold and other scopes I can use- plus the iron sights of course.

Jim

1/1/2010 7:56:28 PM EDT
[#9]
Forget the bipods and you're $100 further ahead
1/1/2010 10:26:45 PM EDT
[#10]
At a bare minimum I need a good light and a mount. I also need some rail covers. And more mags and ammo.
I thought about the bipod for longer range shooting, and that I could use one of the legs for a grip if I needed one. I don't have to have a bipod- it's something that's nice to have but not essential.

I have optics that are decent for now.

Jim
1/1/2010 10:41:48 PM EDT
[#11]
why not a ta01? no fiber optics and you'll never notice the tritium and good reticle choices
1/1/2010 11:28:05 PM EDT
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Quoted:
why not a ta01? no fiber optics and you'll never notice the tritium and good reticle choices


I need one with a flattop mount. Otherwise that is just about what I am looking for.

Jim
1/2/2010 6:12:56 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
why not a ta01? no fiber optics and you'll never notice the tritium and good reticle choices


I need one with a flattop mount. Otherwise that is just about what I am looking for.

Jim


There are always TA51 mounts in the EE.....
1/2/2010 7:34:12 AM EDT
[#14]
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=277&t=176778&page=3

check this thread scroll down to see the reticule for the 1x4x24 optic
1/2/2010 7:55:59 AM EDT
[#15]
I'll sell you a TA51 or ARMS 19LD cheap
1/2/2010 9:41:35 AM EDT
[#16]
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I'll sell you a TA51 or ARMS 19LD cheap


I will keep that in mind. I had a pm about a TA01 I might buy.

Jim

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