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Posted: 8/21/2009 4:55:04 PM EDT
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The Konus M30 1-4X24 is a very good scope for the money. Read what I wrote about it @ MidwayUSA - under Gun Connection If yoiu have any questions let me know. I just tried it out on a rifle a couple of days ago and I like it. Very clear bright glass compared to scopes costing hundreds more and I have looked through many.
KONUS M30 1-4X24 Illuminated Dot 30/30 Reticle MidwayUSA Link: GC |
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I bought one off ebay for 174 with free shipping minus the bing cashback I think it is around 10% right now so around 156 dollars off a seller named poor fish.
I haven't got a scope mount for it yet but it looks like decent glass just looking through it also it has a illlumnated blue dot but it isn't really visible during the day. |
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Just decent glass. You must have bought a bad one. The glass is a step above the glass the Millett scopes have.
With bright clear glass that lets in a lot light it's not going to be possible to see an illuminated reticle in bright sunlight. That's why RD sights have tinted lens coatings to be able to see the illuminated dot in bright light. I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this or expect any different. The reticle is very visible during the day so it doesn't need to be illuminated. The blue dot works very well in late afternoon, the dark and when transitioning from light areas to darker ones GC |
| Alright decent glass may have been misleading but the truth is I really hadn't looked through it a whole since I do not have a mount for it yet waiting for next cc charge period to get a larue mount. Anyhow I was looking through it again today and was comparing it to my ta31f and was surprised at how it compared to the clearness of the acog not quite as clear but very close. This was just looking up my street mabe from 50 to 150 yards. |
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Just decent glass. You must have bought a bad one. The glass is a step above the glass the Millett scopes have. With bright clear glass that lets in a lot light it's not going to be possible to see an illuminated reticle in bright sunlight. That's why RD sights have tinted lens coatings to be able to see the illuminated dot in bright light. I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this or expect any different. The reticle is very visible during the day so it doesn't need to be illuminated. The blue dot works very well in late afternoon, the dark and when transitioning from light areas to darker ones GC The Meopta K-dot has crystal clear glass that is not tinted and the reticle is day time visible in bright sunlight |
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The Meopta K-Dot is a nice optic in it's price range. Illuminated, it's pretty bright in daylight. Not as bright as an EOTech or Aimpoint, but serviceable nonetheless. It also has "off" positions between each brightness setting, similar to the Short Dot.
Above is what some have said about the Meopta K-Dot. It probably has a very strong LED to overcome the bright light coming in. It probably eats up a battery very fast. Most illuminated reticle 1-4 scopes aren't visible in bright light. The Konus 1-4x24 non illuminated reticle is very visible during the day and I find that I don't need any illumination and I definitely don't need it @ longer ranges. Alright decent glass may have been misleading but the truth is I really hadn't looked through it a whole since I do not have a mount for it yet waiting for next cc charge period to get a larue mount. Anyhow I was looking through it again today and was comparing it to my ta31f and was surprised at how it compared to the clearness of the acog not quite as clear but very close. This was just looking up my street mabe from 50 to 150 yards.
What you are seeing in the Konus glass is the parallax error. The parallax is set @ 100 yrds. So it will be clearer @ around 100 yrds and beyond. The Konus 1-4x has very sweet glass for the price. GC |
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You get what you pay for, ESPECIALLY in regards to optics . . . .  So how do you like your Konus scope? I don't own one because I believe in saving a bit and buying quality instead of going for instant gratification. God forbid.  So tell me, what does this have to do with the question the OP asked? |
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I don't own one because I believe in saving a bit and buying quality instead of going for instant gratification.
That's great if you only have a couple of rifles that need scopes. Here is are some good pictures of the Konus 1-4x24. I am very please with mine. I have it mounted on a 9mm carbine. 
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I inquired about this scope a while back, and nobody had anything to say. However, I purchased and received one, and was impressed with overall construction, features, and clarity (for the price) in daylight. After dark, I began to check out the scope for any bloom or issues with light from the reticle and/or lights at night. What I found was that the reticle was illuminating what appeared to be an internal coating that was not applied correctly, and giving me an irregular, milky appearance that increased with reticle brightness. I called Konus USA the next morning, and they had UPS pick it up the next day, and are supposedly sending a new scope. I have yet to receive it, but it's good service thus far, and if anyone will get the one lemon, it'll be me...9 of 10 tims.
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After dark, I began to check out the scope for any bloom or issues with light from the reticle and/or lights at night. What I found was that the reticle was illuminating what appeared to be an internal coating that was not applied correctly, and giving me an irregular, milky appearance that increased with reticle brightness
Is this what you were seeing. I had a look at mine in the dark and on higher brightness settings there is a reflection on the internal lens from the blue illumination. This is only in complete darkness. I don't see it on setting 1 or 2. I don't know if you would ever use it in the dark. GC |
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I too asked about this scope a few months ago with no responses. This scope was as low as $159.99 at Midway a few months ago (when I was looking to buy). I see it is now back up to its original $219 price.
Most people say that Konus is a fantastic value in optics. Apparently they are using European components that are being assembled in China under "strict QC". When I emailed Konus regarding actual magnification, Konus responded stating that that it is a true 1x optic. I am still a skeptic. Perhaps those that own it can let us know for sure. That said, I wound up going with the Bushnell Elite 4200 here. I personally feel that it is the best value in a quality 1-4 illuminated scope. |
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When I emailed Konus regarding actual magnification, Konus responded stating that that it is a true 1x optic. I am still a skeptic. Perhaps those that own it can let us know for sure.
It's not a true 1x. I would say it's about a 1.25x but it's not enough to make a big difference.. It's fast on target with both eyes open and has a very wide FOV. It's a steal for $160. GC |
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Everyone peddling chinese scopes makes the same "strict qc yadda yadda" claims. You really think Konus, Mueller etc are paying guys to fly 13 hours back and forth to China to check on "quality control"? I bet most of these places have never seen where the scopes are made. They place an order with a jobber they have an existing relation with and the scopes arrive on the big brown truck, they then ship the scopes out without ever opening the boxes. The reviews on Amazon: The quality and workmanship are poor. The turrets for example, have 1/8th of an inch of slop in them. The fit and finish is poor and typical I suppose of something mass produced in China. The riflescope has a wonderful visual quality, looks great mounted on my long gun. I notice the following issues with the functionality: the level bubble is very slow to react and you cannot rely on it for a fast set up. The right / left turret is very sloppy to adjust and when locked it still is able to operate a few MOA. Finally, the clairity at long range sighting it not very good. Even with carefully trying to adjust the focus and parallax I still could not get a clear sight picture until the power was reduced to around 20X. |
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The film I was seeing on mine was not even or consistent. It appeard like dried milk smeared on the internal surface, but was only visible when lit up from the back, with the blue dot, or other artificial light, such as a flashlight , streetlight, etc. The brighter the light, the more it whited out in the view. In daylight, dusk, and dawn, it was very clear, bright, and had no hint of this coating that could be seen. I can say that the 1-4x version doesn't have any perceptable 'slop' in the adjustment clicks. It's not a 'long range' scope, but a practical 'hold down the farm' scope with 1/2 MOA adjustments. It still has the level bubble, which is very handy while mounting, as another reference, but OTT, it's not really needed. The ocular ring has a very heavy duty seal on the external lens, so if a thick border bothers you, you might not like that. IMO, it's way overbuilt for a +/-$200 scope. However, the proof is in the longevity and performance on an AR, so the verdict is still out on that. I've seen much flimsier looking optics for way more $, had much more disinterested service on scopes costing 4x as much, and seen worse glass, too. I'm not going to jump up and down and say it's all that and a bag of chips, but it's at least a step above your typical entry-level AR/short scope and not 'snub' material...just yet. As far as the reviews of the higher magnification Konus M30s, I'd have no qualms thinking folks could be more critical. Their use is more critical with regards to adjustment, focus, etc. 
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Everyone peddling chinese scopes makes the same "strict qc yadda yadda" claims. You really think Konus, Mueller etc are paying guys to fly 13 hours back and forth to China to check on "quality control"? I bet most of these places have never seen where the scopes are made. They place an order with a jobber they have an existing relation with and the scopes arrive on the big brown truck, they then ship the scopes out without ever opening the boxes.
Some do. Steve Millett has flown to China several times There are a lot of good lower cost Made in China optics. Millett DMS-1 and it has been proven to be an excellent lower cost made in China scope. So has the Falcon scopes, the lower cost Leupold scopes and others. Who cares we are just wanting a good lower cost scope. This thread is about the 1-4x24 M30 scope and I have posted what I have found to be true on the one I own and I stand by it. The OP wants to hear from the ones who personally know something about the 1-4x24 scope. Konus USA has excellent customer service and stands by their products. That's one of my main things I consider when choosing an optic. GC |
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While i don't have a Konus 1-4 scope, I do have a Konus 7120 spotting scope that i picked up for $200. I would rate the quality as somewhat shoddy, but it does the work ok. The glass has a little bit of a yellow tint when you look through it, and there was a tiny scratch on the lens
that shows when you look through the spotting scope. It's not enough to affect my spotting, but it is annoying nonetheless. Also, the red dot that shows what power you have the scope at (its a 20-60x) started to rub away. One of the eyepiece covers doesn't fit, it just falls off. And then in one spot, they did a horrible glue job because you can see the glue when you shouldn't be able to. I will NEVER be buying a Konus product ever again after this spotting scope. This manufacturing job (even for being Made in China) sucks! Maybe i got a shitty one, since the reviews for the Konus 7120 were pretty decent. I'm sticking to all Nikon optics, and will not stray. Best bang for your buck I would say... |
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When I emailed Konus regarding actual magnification, Konus responded stating that that it is a true 1x optic. I am still a skeptic. Perhaps those that own it can let us know for sure.
It's not a true 1x. I would say it's about a 1.25x but it's not enough to make a big difference.. It's fast on target with both eyes open and has a very wide FOV. It's a steal for $160. GC Thats what I thought. Makes me glad that I didnt support them with my $$$ if they are going to lie about something stupid like that. I am extremely happy with my Bushnell Elite (1.25x as well). |
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Bushnell Elite scopes are made by Light Optics Works in Japan. Light Optics Works also has a large facility in Phillipines where a lot of lower end scopes are made for Bushnell and for others. The lower end Bushnell scopes are made in China by various OEM manufacturers.
i have looked through several at the range ORSA including a spotting scope all looked fine...... it really is what makes you happy.... ( Remember seems this forum leans towards AIM - ECO- ACOG- and the back up sight.....NOT EVERYONE IS WILLING OR CAN AFFORD THESE ) i have a Deer Scope on my AR , and one AR with iron ... my back up is a .45 1911..... CHEERS................................ |
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I've thrown out chinese BSA, Tasco, Bushnell (several) scopes, I had a Springfield hakko (supposedly japanese) sent back once for warranty work and it broke again within a few shots. When Mueller was trying to peddle a "combat scope" here I questioned it so they offered to sell me one and have me test it. Less than one AR magazine later it was dead as a doornail. I returned it and got my money back. The cheapo scopes don't retain zero, don't have repeatable clicks and often don't keep moisture out. I've seen it time and time again. I'd love to be able to buy $ 50 scopes that worked but my experience has been they don't. |
Okay, I got A Konus scope back from Warranty: An 8.5-32x56??  I gave them a call and they evidently got addresses mixed up, so they have a 1-4x going out today and a pick up tag in with UPS for this monster. This one looks like a quality scope for the $, but I'm in an office, looking out a 4th floor window....impossible to really judge it fully. However, construction appears (like the other scope) to be way stout and well finished. Lets see what comes in on Wednesday. I might get to review yet another model, if they keep this up.
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Okay, I got A Konus scope back from Warranty: An 8.5-32x56??
It does show they have good customer service because not many optics companies will issue a call tag. Man, you should have kept the 8.5-32X56 and sold it, then buy a 1-4x24. The Monster is worth about $350. You could have made a nice $150 profit. You were not thinking, I guess. GC |
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Okay, I got A Konus scope back from Warranty: An 8.5-32x56??
It does show they have good customer service because not many optics companies will issue a call tag. Man, you should have kept the 8.5-32X56 and sold it, then buy a 1-4x24. The Monster is worth about $350. You could have made a nice $150 profit. You were not thinking, I guess. GC If dishonesty is not an acceptable practice for the seller, why should it be any different for the consumer?
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I have a Konus 3x12x50 that I bought locally at a gun show. I was very impressed with the quality of the glass compared to the scopes costing three times the price. I bought it specifically for one of my 22s, but it has spent time on a 5.56 Ar as well as my DPMS 308. It is now sitting waiting for my new 22 build to be completed. I still like the scope and still think they are a great value. Today I just sold a Super Sniper 10X and purchased a Konus M30 4.5x16x40 for my SPRish AR build. I should get the scope next week at which time I'll see if I made the correct choice. Nothing wrong with the SS, but I wanted a variable. I looked at the Konus at SHOT 2008 and thought it looked and felt decent. I thought the glass was clearer than that of the Millet which was an other option I was looking at. I'd love to be able to fund a top dollar scope, but have a hard time justifying it with the amount I shoot these days.
I'll add a report when I get the new Konus up and running. |
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Update: I did receive the (correct model) Konus M30 1-4x back in a couple of days after the model mixup. This one appears perfect outside and inside, in all light. I have finally gotten some rings that I think will work for me/scope/eye box length and have it mounted...no sight in, box drills, etc. yet. They actually threw a Konus T-shirt in the box....so, I officially have the T-shirt. I'll post good, bad, ugly, etc. as I use it and maybe abuse it.
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