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Posted: 2/22/2009 6:15:50 PM EDT
| would someone tell me how nightforce ranks in quatlity with swaro, zeiss or even leupy? thanks |
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overall quality of the ones you mentioned are pretty close with leupy being last. but they are hardly comparable scopes. you have zeiss and swaro both which are more hunting tailored, ngihtforce with has a "tactical" and a "target" line, then leupy that makes some of each.
as far as a hunting scope would be concerned out of those mentioned i would pick swaro every time unless it was say a LR hunting rig, then it would be a NF NXS. as far as tactical/target use is concerned i would once again pick NF NXS. as far as glass quality the edge IMo goes to swaro with zeiss's top tier models right with it, followed by NF, then zeiss's conquest line being about equal to leupy which isnt saying much. as far as tracking, and features NF hands down. no other scope in the price range offers you what NF does. none of them are going to be tougher, none are going to track better, and no others offer such a proud range of reticle options in both MOA, and MIL and also let you chose MOA, or MIL knobs. NF hands down for me. |
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For tactical purposes the Nightforce is a step above Leupold because of glass quality. And it all depends on what you want for reticles. Both are rock solid. Zeiss and Swaro have excellent glass and make great hunting scopes at a high cost for the Swaro and the higher end Zeiss models. I believe Zeiss is working on a tactical turret but I do not know that for sure. You would be hard pressed to distinguish glass quality except in the lowest light conditions. Do you need or want tacticle or just a high quality glass scope? |
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For tactical purposes the Nightforce is a step above Leupold because of glass quality. And it all depends on what you want for reticles. Both are rock solid. I believe Zeiss is working on a tactical turret but I do not know that for sure. you get a whole lot more than clearer glass with the NF. its a much better scope all around, its stronger, has more features, MOA and MIL knobs, and MOA and MIL reticles. with leupy your stuck with MOA knobs, and MIL reticles. for somebody who just sits the scope on their to look cool this doesnt matter, but for somebody who puts their scopes to work a matched knob and reticle system is critical in my book. zeiss has a full tactical line out. hensoldt, and they're now coming to the states. youve been able to get them imported yourself but really no dealers. |
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Nightforce is one of the best optics on the market and for the price they are hard to beat.
S&B USO and NF are really close to USO specially now that NF has a FFP scope. Leupold Swaro are great scope but they are not a good tactical scope. If you are looking for a low powered scope like a 1-4x then ELCAN Specter DR are great. Mike @ CSGW www.csgunworks.com [email protected] Here’s some testimonials about CS GunWorks FEEDBACK about CSGUNWORKS on AR15.com FEEDBACK about CSGUNWORKS on Snipersparadise FEEDBACK about CSGUNWORKS on the HIDE |
| If your tuff on your rig and are constantly milling different distances and beating the hell out of things, Nightforce makes a great scope for that. But if your not going to be throwing your rig around and you like looking through top quality German glass as you mil distances, Zeiss is hard to beat. I have replaced two Nightforce NXS for two Zeiss Diavari Victory T* VM/V Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 6-24x 56mm.Mil-Dot scopes. For the rigs that will be thrown around, in addition to S&B and Premeir Reticle, the Zeiss Hensoldt scopes will be available in the U.S.A soon. |
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as far as glass quality the edge IMo goes to swaro with zeiss's top tier models right with it, followed by NF, then zeiss's conquest line being about equal to leupy which isnt saying much. Not sure what you are basing this on. Do you own both of these? I do. I own a Leupold 6.5-20 and a Zeiss Conquest 6.5-20. To say they are equal tells me you don't own both. The difference is stunning. My Leupold 6.5-20 now lives on my 10/22 where it belongs. I do agree with your assessment of Nightforce. Bill |
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yes i have owned both thats how i base my opinion. i havnt had a 6.5-20 model, jsut a 3-9, and 4.5-14. i still have the 3-9 it is on my kimber montana 7WSM and makes for a great combo. at the glass in both of my zeiss's have been good, but not outstanding. If you have had both then you have an educated opinion. I still have both and when I compare the two, the Leupold is no where near the Zeiss. I find the Nikon Monarchs to be a better scope than the Leupolds VX-III. Their 30mm tube optics are still using their 1" glass. WTH is a 3.5-10 doing in a 30mm tube? Their 1" tube has a 3.5-10. Leupold has really offered nothing lately other than that silly asshat V7 cut-away objective lens and their Prizmatic thing. Their illuminated reticle doesn't show up in day light etc etc etc. At the Shot Show their booth was yesterday's news. Bill |
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