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Posted: 8/22/2008 1:57:27 PM EDT
So, if Trijicon came out with a TR-21BDC and looked something like the photo below would you buy it? It seems to me that the Accupoint has many strong points but its single most complained about feature is the reticle. If it had a BDC or some variation of it, would it appeal to more potential buyers? For example, more 3-gunners, LE, military, and not to mention the ARFCOM crowd. Its specs lend it to be a very capable optic: 11.40oz, 10.20 inches long, 61.6 to 20.5 field of view, and a day/night visible reticule with no batteries, all for around $600. Not that my opinion makes a difference but I for one would definetly buy one. Anyone else share this opinion or am I all alone in thinking its a good idea?
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| I heard the same, bullitt5172 mentioned it briefly in another thread somewhere. There seems to be a small following within Trijicon that is working on something like this. Most of the information is heresay at this point, nothing official from Trijicon. We can only hope that someone is pushing it. |
| The German 4 really interests me but I haven't seen many reticle shots of it, and I don't know the MOA distance. May need to put that question in to Trijicon. The center dot seems to be very small, but if it works I have no complaints. A .308 BDC in the TR22 would be sweet! |
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It would be nice, Trijicon is the only people that really take the time to get there BDC right.. I think they should do it.. It would be good for people with AR-10's and People with Rifles.. right now AR-15's are the only rifle has has a Optic (The ACOG) with a BDC that works and works very good.. I could see alot of hunters doing this.. and the military would buy them for there scout snipers.. I mean its not gonna be anything like the ACOG but it will be good for people with bolt rifles and AR-10's.. I would get one for my M700 (30-06).. The only prob is they would have to make a BDC for 308, 30-06, 223, 270, 240 and alot more.. and then get the avg gr that people use of each round down.. so it would be as good as the one on the ACOG.. if it is not then its not worth it.. on the other hand.. I think its a good idea but really.. all the crap they would have to do.. I think they should just leave it as is.. they will not sell more or less with the BDC on it... |
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^ ^ ^ ^ No, I think they would sell even more if it had a BDC like in the TA31 series. If they could at least make it similar to the TA31F I know that my crew would buy some. We've been on a quest for a QUALITY&DURABLE variable power with a BDC, but no luck. IOR offers one, but I'm not a fan of their CQB reticle; it's too busy for me. Short Dot costs more than my car, yet has no BDC. If NightForce incorporated a BDC to their 1-4x with circle dot reticle, That would probably be the only optic I'd use. The quest for the ultimate short to medium range fighting optic continues  .
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I think BDC might be a problem with an accupoint because the drop/hold changes for each different magnification. The reticle size does not change with zoom power so your 100yard zero under 4x will be no good for 3x for example. This doesn't really matter for 1.25x at close range because of over bore height but it really makes a BDC effective under only certain magnification levels. BDC would just confuse people because of this. |
I agree with Jaguwa, maybe not a BDC but some more conventional reticle options.
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I really like the idea of the Accupoints get a BDC reticle. Mike @ CSGW www.csgunworks.com [email protected] Here’s some testimonials about CS GunWorks FEEDBACK about CSGUNWORKS on AR15.com FEEDBACK about CSGUNWORKS on Snipersparadise FEEDBACK about CSGUNWORKS on the HIDE |
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All accupoints are SFP reticles thus it will only work with highest magnifiction. Since the reticle is actually the fiber optic fibers and not etched, it would take a complete redsign of the scope to get it FFP, which is highly unlikely. Also since the reticle is likely not going to be close to any round I shoot I personal voted leave it as is.
I have never seen an illuminated FFP scope that had its illumination on the back end of the scope. |
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not a particularly big fan of the bdc reticle in the first post, but definitely interested in this-
especially if trijicon can keep the price point at what it is now to get me in over something like a schmitt and bender but worth the extra bucks for quality and longevity (thanks to tritium/fiber) over say a millet dms1- |
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I could care less about the BDC being perfect in anything but the highest magnification. If that made an optic unusable there'd be a whole lot of optic makers with a whole lot less to offer.
I could care less about the extra .25X of magnification. If I can shoot a 2X with out illumination at close range, and you go blind and your rifle melts from 1.25X, maybe you should be visiting your eye doc. I really like the IOR 1.5-8x26, but would much rather have a Trijicon product. A 1.5-6/7/8 Accupoint with the "scout scope" profile and the same reticle uglyduck mentioned would be awesome. I remember hearing rumors that the new 6X ACOG was actually a 1-6X and was ready to but stock in the company. 
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