Aimpoint ML3? > Optics, Mounts, and Sights

Posted: 8/20/2008 8:30:59 PM EDT

I just got a new Aimpoint ML3 2MOA dot sight and have a question about the dot, on mine if I set it above setting 5 it is not well defined and almost looks like a windshield that was hit with a rock and spiderwebed is this normal?

Thanks,

Stacey

Posted: 8/21/2008 5:13:55 AM EDT

[#1]

Mine does that on max setting. Its too bright just turn it down one.

Posted: 8/21/2008 7:01:44 AM EDT

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Mine does that on max setting. Its too bright just turn it down one.

Mine does it if I set it above setting five and you can't see the dot below setting three

Posted: 8/21/2008 8:54:37 AM EDT

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Mine does that on max setting. Its too bright just turn it down one.

Mine does it if I set it above setting five and you can't see the dot below setting three

That dosent sound normal. Mine only does it on the brightest settings and thats only if its dark in the room.

Try it outside in sunlight and see what it does

Posted: 8/21/2008 9:39:18 AM EDT

[#4]

Focusing on the dot can cause something like you describe. Dot will appear clear when your focus is downrange.

Also, if you wear glasses, does the dot's appearance change with them off/on?

Posting a good picture would *really* help here.

Posted: 8/21/2008 9:44:48 AM EDT

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Mine does that on max setting. Its too bright just turn it down one.

Mine does it if I set it above setting five and you can't see the dot below setting three

are you sure you got an ML3 or an M3?

what you are describing sounds like the NV settings on the M3... my M2 is the same way...

Posted: 8/21/2008 12:07:21 PM EDT

[#6]

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Mine does that on max setting. Its too bright just turn it down one.

Mine does it if I set it above setting five and you can't see the dot below setting three

are you sure you got an ML3 or an M3?

what you are describing sounds like the NV settings on the M3... my M2 is the same way...

I cant see anything on the first few settings of my ML3

Posted: 8/21/2008 12:16:56 PM EDT

[#7]

Stacey, I think you'll find that in use outside that will disappear. Mine does and all I
see is that little bitty lovely 2MOA dot....POW!

Midlnegth

Posted: 8/26/2008 7:25:02 PM EDT

[#8]

I have the same problem. I can't see the dot on settings 1-4 and 7-10 appear blurry. I just emailed Aimpoint yesterday but no response yet.

Glad I'm not the only one.

Posted: 8/27/2008 2:59:07 AM EDT

[#9]

I was worried about this too. i just got mine and thought it was my eyes, then I took it outside and everything was crisp and clear as could be. Take it outside before you do anything else.

Posted: 8/27/2008 7:25:32 AM EDT

[#10]

My Aimpoints have never looked like a dot. More like a star burst or comet. It's much worse inside than outside. It also have a lot to do with your eyes.

Posted: 8/27/2008 12:35:49 PM EDT

[#11]

I have an ML3 2MOA. Mine does it if I set it on the very highest couple of settings, but not under that. It is your eyes. When I have my glasses on, It only does it if I set it on high. If I don't have my glasses on, I notice it on about 5 on up.

Have you had your eyes checked, do you wear glasses, and what is your vision? Honestly I think that is the culprit, after playing around with mine both wearing my glasses and without.

Posted: 8/27/2008 9:12:25 PM EDT

[#12]

That still doesn't explain why I(and others, it seems) see nothing on the first 4 or 5 settings. WTF?

Posted: 8/27/2008 9:22:48 PM EDT

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That still doesn't explain why I(and others, it seems) see nothing on the first 4 or 5 settings. WTF?

The reason you cant see the reticle on the first few settings, is that the dot is not bright enough.

Thats why you can still use an ML3 with night vision sights.

As for the aimpoint 'blooming' on setting 5, and above, it could be that your conentrating on the "dot" rather than at the target, and it could be that the sight is displaying too brightly.

Is this your first red-dot sight? You may be over estimating what the dot is "supposed" to look like. Mine has a little it of bloom on all but the lowest daytime settings, although on setting 6 and 7 its a very clean looking dot, in daytime conditions.

Pics are worth 1000 words

Posted: 8/28/2008 5:27:54 AM EDT

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That still doesn't explain why I(and others, it seems) see nothing on the first 4 or 5 settings. WTF?

The reason you cant see the reticle on the first few settings, is that the dot is not bright enough.

Thats why you can still use an ML3 with night vision sights.

As for the aimpoint 'blooming' on setting 5, and above, it could be that your conentrating on the "dot" rather than at the target, and it could be that the sight is displaying too brightly.

Is this your first red-dot sight? You may be over estimating what the dot is "supposed" to look like. Mine has a little it of bloom on all but the lowest daytime settings, although on setting 6 and 7 its a very clean looking dot, in daytime conditions.

Pics are worth 1000 words he
I did take a picture of the dot. What shows up on the camera is not what I see when I look through the sight. The camera shows it without the little starburst around it. But from what I've read above, my dot sounds normal.

I'm mostly concerned with the lack of a dot at low settings. I'm not sure I can justify buying night vision goggles just to test it out.

Posted: 8/28/2008 5:34:12 AM EDT

[#15]

take it out side. The dots show up in the dark and will not be so bright in daylight....

Posted: 8/28/2008 8:08:29 AM EDT

[#16]

If you let your eyes get adjusted to darkness and use it in a dark place you will be able to see the first few brightness settings.

Posted: 8/28/2008 9:14:41 PM EDT

[#17]

What do you know?, In the dark I can see the dot on every setting. Operator error, it seems.

Posted: 8/28/2008 10:22:09 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

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That still doesn't explain why I(and others, it seems) see nothing on the first 4 or 5 settings. WTF?

The reason you cant see the reticle on the first few settings, is that the dot is not bright enough.

Thats why you can still use an ML3 with night vision sights.

As for the aimpoint 'blooming' on setting 5, and above, it could be that your conentrating on the "dot" rather than at the target, and it could be that the sight is displaying too brightly.

Is this your first red-dot sight? You may be over estimating what the dot is "supposed" to look like. Mine has a little it of bloom on all but the lowest daytime settings, although on setting 6 and 7 its a very clean looking dot, in daytime conditions.

Pics are worth 1000 words

The ML3, according to the Aimpoint website:"It is the perfect choice for professionals, hunters and sport shooters who DON'T need night vision device compatibility but want an extremely tough and reliable sight. For night vision compatibility we recommend the CompM3."

I did take a picture of the dot. What shows up on the camera is not what I see when I look through the sight. The camera shows it without the little starburst around it. But from what I've read above, my dot sounds normal.

I'm mostly concerned with the lack of a dot at low settings. I'm not sure I can justify buying night vision goggles just to test it out.

You dont need to test it with NVG, plenty of other people here already have

I cant see mine untill setting 4 or 5 either.

If you concerned, at night go into a bathroom or closet (a room with zero light) and wait for like 15 minutes, then look through the sight, you should be able to make it out on the lowest settings, although I have trouble seeing it on setting 1 even in pitch black.

Its basically the same LED that the military one uses, but the M3 is waterproof to deeper, and the ML3 has a special coating on the lens to let more light through at dusk/dawn (lowlight) environments.

Posted: 8/29/2008 2:55:56 AM EDT

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That still doesn't explain why I(and others, it seems) see nothing on the first 4 or 5 settings. WTF?

The reason you cant see the reticle on the first few settings, is that the dot is not bright enough.

Thats why you can still use an ML3 with night vision sights.

As for the aimpoint 'blooming' on setting 5, and above, it could be that your conentrating on the "dot" rather than at the target, and it could be that the sight is displaying too brightly.

Is this your first red-dot sight? You may be over estimating what the dot is "supposed" to look like. Mine has a little it of bloom on all but the lowest daytime settings, although on setting 6 and 7 its a very clean looking dot, in daytime conditions.

Pics are worth 1000 words

The ML3, according to the Aimpoint website:"It is the perfect choice for professionals, hunters and sport shooters who DON'T need night vision device compatibility but want an extremely tough and reliable sight. For night vision compatibility we recommend the CompM3."

I did take a picture of the dot. What shows up on the camera is not what I see when I look through the sight. The camera shows it without the little starburst around it. But from what I've read above, my dot sounds normal.

I'm mostly concerned with the lack of a dot at low settings. I'm not sure I can justify buying night vision goggles just to test it out.

You dont need to test it with NVG, plenty of other people here already have

I cant see mine untill setting 4 or 5 either.

If you concerned, at night go into a bathroom or closet (a room with zero light) and wait for like 15 minutes, then look through the sight, you should be able to make it out on the lowest settings, although I have trouble seeing it on setting 1 even in pitch black.

Its basically the same LED that the military one uses, but the M3 is waterproof to deeper, and the ML3 has a special coating on the lens to let more light through at dusk/dawn (lowlight) environments.

Actually, Aimpoint lists both the M3 and ML3 as submersible to 135 feet (45 meters). The only major difference between the two is the circuitry which allows the M3 to have lower LED illumination for NVG and the much longer battery as a result of that.

Posted: 8/29/2008 3:55:42 AM EDT

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That still doesn't explain why I(and others, it seems) see nothing on the first 4 or 5 settings. WTF?

The reason you cant see the reticle on the first few settings, is that the dot is not bright enough.

Thats why you can still use an ML3 with night vision sights.

As for the aimpoint 'blooming' on setting 5, and above, it could be that your conentrating on the "dot" rather than at the target, and it could be that the sight is displaying too brightly.

Is this your first red-dot sight? You may be over estimating what the dot is "supposed" to look like. Mine has a little it of bloom on all but the lowest daytime settings, although on setting 6 and 7 its a very clean looking dot, in daytime conditions.

Pics are worth 1000 words he
I did take a picture of the dot. What shows up on the camera is not what I see when I look through the sight. The camera shows it without the little starburst around it. But from what I've read above, my dot sounds normal.

I'm mostly concerned with the lack of a dot at low settings. I'm not sure I can justify buying night vision goggles just to test it out.h

I cant see mine untill setting 4 or 5 either.

If you concerned, at night go into a bathroom or closet (a room with zero light) and wait for like 15 minutes, then look through the sight, you should be able to make it out on the lowest settings, although I have trouble seeing it on setting 1 even in pitch black.

Its basically the same LED that the military one uses, but the M3 is waterproof to deeper, and the ML3 has a special coating on the lens to let more light through at dusk/dawn (lowlight) environments.

Actually, Aimpoint lists both the M3 and ML3 as submersible to 135 feet (45 meters). The only major difference between the two is the circuitry which allows the M3 to have lower LED illumination for NVG and the much longer battery as a result of that.

According to the Aimpoint website, both the M3 and ML3 have the 'ACET' circuitry giving them 50,000 hours of battery life. The only difference in the two descriptions is the M3 is night vision compatible(500,000 hours on the NVD setting) and the ML3 is not listed as such.

So, has anyone here tried using an ML3 with night vision???

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