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Posted: 2/1/2008 4:48:22 PM EDT
| I have a 16" carbine right now with a decent scope for fun and some yote hunts. I just ordered my 2nd lower to start my next project. DAMN BRD!!! I plan on an 18 or 20" for my next one which will become my yote gun. The 16" will then become more of a play gun. I was thinking of putting a cheap red dot on there cause I cannot afford any EOTECH or Aimpoint or any other expensive sight. My intentions of the red dot are for practice on my own in hopes to be on SWAT one day. Would it be okay to put a BSA or similar red dot on this gun? What kind of range can I expect with something like this?Any advice on other red dots would be nice. |
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Would something like this be tactical...for building/house clearing? www.bsaoptics.com/scope.aspx?product=87 |
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I had one of these for awhile and it is great for the price. Red Dot |
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I know there are a lot of aimpoint guys on here, but I use my 6.8 upper for hunting mostly. I had a bushnell red dot from one of my slug guns. I put it on there and it has held a zero every time. Hell, I can slap it on there, and it's usually within 2 MOA. I put an e-bay aimpoint 3x magnifier clone behind it. It's a hard combo to beat. I think the red dot cost me about $80 and the magnifier was $76 + shipping. I can pull the magnifier off and use it as a monacle, so I don't have to point my gun at an unknown target. Just something to think about. |
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Im an AR newb looking for a cheep red dot and not sure what the deal is with this one Famous Maker its only $55 so I was wondering if it was worth less and if so, what is it that makes it crap? Thanks |
I have that red dot, and it's actually pretty decent. If you get anything mueller get it from Mizzo Mule Guns, they've got the best prices |
I would not put that chi-com optic on a duty gun or any gun you use to protect your life. They are fine for range toys. I tortured one of those fairly well and it did not take mild abuse well. If you need an red-dot that won't break the bank, but will stand up to abuse, water, and even freezing temps. Get the S.P.O.T. they run $149 including the mount. They look similar to an Aimpoint (and can use the same mounts) except for the battery compartment and control knob. Decently made piece of Korean gear. |
Low battery life. Poor mount Will get moisture inside when exposed to freezing tempertures. Will lose zero when dropped on a moderately hard surface from a 1' or so. Inconsistant (or non existant) discrete adjustments when zeroing. Plastic battery covers that pop off when said optic is dropped. Battery cover will not stay on the rifle after getting dropped a couple of times. Battery cover poping off after a couple of shots (again after the drop test). |
| this is the way to go. Donk buy junk or you'll be forced to make a another purchase 6 months later. (if it lasts that long) check out this scope. SPOT Red Dot Scope It gets excellent reviews and has a torture test somewhere here on ar15.com , basically the guy broke his gun trying to break the scope and the scope was still GTG, it's an excellent buy :) |
| It makes no sense to me to spend almost a thousand dollars or more on a rifle and them want to spend under a hundred on the scope. You are just asking for a failure with that. If you could save up for the rifle then save up for a decent optic as well, it would be worth your time and efforts. |
I think the SPOT and the Burris xts135 proves all of those things false...except maybe battery life. |
Exactly how hard have you tested those two units out? I am just curious. I know the SPOT is supposed to be pretty good but have heard that the Burris is not that great. I have also heard that the SPOT is not without its share of shortcomings as well. |
I have the 135...It has been thrown in the Jeep, dropped and generally not treated so well. It's been rained on, but not submerged, so don't know how waterproof it really is. here is the link of how the SPOT did, and the Burris is "supposed" to be a beefed up version of that one. archive.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=253934 |
RIF Go back and read BOTH of my posts. THen compare the SPOT to thje optics he's looking at. |
My bad, I was having a mildly retarded moment... 
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You guys should look into the Hilux Leatherwood red dot scope, for around $85.00 (from Bushmaster website and catalog) it's been well worth it for me. Approx 1000 plus rounds, attached and re-attached at least 5x on my flat top upper and it's still zeroed in. It's also waterproof and Shockproof. Here's the link: www.bushmaster.com/catalog_parts_sights_scopes_p2.asp#LWRD30 I had Eotechs in the past, if you have the money then it's worth it. I had ordered the Burris XTS, bec I saw one on ebay for a good price. I'll update you guys when I get that one and make a trip to the range. 
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I WOULDNT PUT MY LIFE ON THE LINE WITH SPOT OR BURRIS SAVE UP AND BUY COMBAT PROVEN SIGHT like AIMPOINT or my second pick EOTECH |
I believe he just want to get a red dot scope for practice / range. Besides, If he gets in the LE field, (e.g SWAT) They'll give him his duty rifle which will prob be equipped with an Eotech or an Aimpoint that his city/ state will provide for him (together with the proper life saving training). IMHO, Let's say Burris competes with Aimpoint and Eotech and successfully meets their specs, it's still up to politcs (re: which is more cost effective, who will give the best quality at a set price for the govt, etc...) to decide which one's gets used by our armed forces. As one of the members pointed out, the S.p.o.t. was torture tested by an ARFCommer, and made a whole write-up about it. Mil spec or not, that tells you alot about the scope. (reviews by actual members from this board)
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