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6/10/2007 7:32:57 AM EDT
I am looking at these 2 scopes.

1.1-4X26
1.5-8X26

I have looked through a 4X24 M2 before and it didn't have enough eye relief.  Will these scopes be the same way?  (Going on a flat top AR w/A1 stock)

In this price range what else would be a better option and why?

What are IOR scopes advantages and shortcomings?  Other than the importers customer service.
6/10/2007 8:34:16 AM EDT
[#1]
With 3.75" of eye relief on the 1.1-4 and 3.5 on the 1.5-8, I don't think you will have a problem with eye relief. If you were looking through an M2 4x scope w/ the rubber eye piece it does seem shorter but you had 3" of eye relief.

THere are two things about these scopes that set them apart from the main, great glass (same company that makes there glass makes it for Zeiss) and they are built like a tank.
One draw back is the weight if that is important to you.

They are both great scopes, the only thing is for the money you could get a true 1-4x scope
US optics
usoptics.com/product.php?partnumber=SN4-100
Meopta
www.swfa.com/pc-9143-1134-meopta-1-4x22-meostar-r1-30mm-rifle-scope.aspx

The only thing if you are planning on getting the 1.5-8 I would get that over the others for the extra magnification. Other that that I would put it between the IOR 1.1-4 or the Usoptics, I don't like the reticle of the moepta YMMV

DMgangl
6/10/2007 8:49:29 AM EDT
[#2]
With the M2 put your eye right up on the rubber bellows.  It looks funky but it does seal out the outside light well and quickly establishes the correct eye relief.

The optics are VERY clear and sharp.  

I like the BDC and lit reticle features, the turret knobs, the works.  A fine scope!

The worth thing I can say about the M2 is it is ugly, looks like something that fell off a steam locomotive.  But it is rugged.  I never would have purchased one if not for the opportunity to look through one mounted on an AR.

I don't know about the other scopes you asked about, just the M2, which I do like a lot.
6/10/2007 10:25:42 AM EDT
[#3]
It looks like the IOR scopes don't have any tactical style click adjustments.  (I know the M2 does)  It looks like the US Optics does.  What are its click values?

On the M2, how well does it do when you do the box drill to test repeatability?
6/10/2007 11:03:41 AM EDT
[#4]
The clicks on the 1.5x8 are 1/4 MOA.  It you plan on using a BUIS under the scope, you will need the Troy or something lower.  And you will most likely have to use a long stock so you can put the scope just on the upper receiver and not stratling both like mine unless you get a scout rail and the low rings.  The CQT reticle is calibrated for the M855 out of a 14.5 inch barrel.  It is a very nice scope for a Reece type AR.

6/10/2007 11:11:22 AM EDT
[#5]
IMHO turret-style knobs on a 1-4x scope are useless. I really like the IOR CQB reticle on my 1.1-4x for low-power scope applications because you can zero at 50yds (or whatever), close the adjustment knob covers so your zero is not accidentally changed, then calibrate your holdovers on the known MIL scale in the reticle. Much more useful than a BDC for me because I shoot 6.8 out of a 12.5" barrel and my drops are way off the typical M855 out of a 14.5" barrel BDC calibration.

I love my IOR 1.1-4x26, although I see the prices have shot into orbit in the two years since I bought mine.
6/10/2007 4:12:19 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
It looks like the IOR scopes don't have any tactical style click adjustments.  (I know the M2 does)  It looks like the US Optics does.  What are its click values?

On the M2, how well does it do when you do the box drill to test repeatability?



Repeatable return to zero.

In fact, the Windage knob is set up so that once zeroed, you can set it to 0, with white 1,2,3,4, etc for left, and red colored 1,2,3,4 etc for right.

And the elevation is set 1 (for 100 m), 2 (for 200 m), etc.  and return consistently.
6/23/2007 10:14:01 AM EDT
[#7]
Anyone else want to weigh in?

Can you mount these on a flatop without an extended riser (Larue SPR setup) and not have eye relief issues.
6/23/2007 11:56:39 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Anyone else want to weigh in?

Can you mount these on a flatop without an extended riser (Larue SPR setup) and not have eye relief issues.


Yes, but you will need an A1 or A2 length stock.
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