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4/28/2007 8:35:11 PM EDT
I was looking at buying a Red dot sight for my pistol cal. carbine and went to look at the burris 1x35 Xtreme Tactical Speeddot Sight that mounts with a aimpoint style ring and also saw the new burris mini dot sight the "FastFire" which looks like the doctor optic sight. I am haveing a hard time on which of these to buy the both look nice does anyone own these sights have any real user feedback about them? I really kind of like the Fastfire but just wonder if it really works well is so small it almost seems like a toy.
4/29/2007 7:25:32 AM EDT
[#1]
My fastfire is on backorder.

After seeing one at a gunshow and comparing it to a doc op i ordered one for 165.00.

Cant wait to get it, I am going to try it on both rifles and a pistol and will probably end up with three of them.

The first rifle it is going on it will be the primary optic
4/29/2007 11:42:24 AM EDT
[#2]
I've got the Fastfire on a carbine.  Had to use a small riser to get it above the front sight.  I works as well as my Eotech.  Covers about 4.5 MOA.  Battery is common CR2032 supposed to last 4 years if you don't turn it off.  Mine has been turned on since I got it, about two months, and it's still going.  I don't think it is as durable as the EOTech but LaRue makes an armored mount for it.  I also just put one on my S&W M&P .40 in place of the rear sight.  It takes the recoil of the slide no problem.  It's supposed to withstand 1000 G's.  I got mine for $165 from Optics Planet before they raised their price to $192.  

Jack
4/29/2007 3:51:22 PM EDT
[#3]
I want to get one of the Fastfires for my SA-M7.  I would just like to play with one before I spent the money.
4/29/2007 4:49:10 PM EDT
[#4]
LaRue makes a nice piece with the fastfire in a AR flattop mount that has a flip up rear sight built in.  It's great.
4/30/2007 8:10:37 AM EDT
[#5]
Does anyone know a place that has the burris fastfire sights in stock?
4/30/2007 1:07:00 PM EDT
[#6]
  LaRue took care of it for me one's on  the way!
4/30/2007 1:31:39 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
  LaRue took care of it for me one's on  the way!


5/3/2007 1:59:52 AM EDT
[#8]
Do you have to dismount the Burris Fastfire to change batteries? If so, are the Burris mounts designed so it returns back to zero, or do you have to re-zero it?

How does it compare to the Pride Fowler and the Docter?

The Burris is twice as heavy as those 2. Is its lense area bigger? The other 2's lense areas are roughly 7/8" wide by 5/8" tall.

The other 2 are roughly 1-7/8" L x 1" W x 15/16" T. How big is the Burris?

5/3/2007 6:27:50 AM EDT
[#9]
Hopefully I can anwser some of your ??'s pretty soon when my fastfire arrives by mail.
5/3/2007 8:37:46 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Hopefully I can anwser some of your ??'s pretty soon when my fastfire arrives by mail.


Thanks Terry,

I'll be waiting for your report and evaluation.
5/3/2007 1:58:35 PM EDT
[#11]
Ok the fastfire just arrived a few hrs ago and I have been playing with  indoors and out. On the size the glass and sight itself looks to be the same size as the doctor sight. To change the battery the sight has to be removed from the base with two screws takes about 1 minute and I am sure the sight stays sighted in there is no reason it shouldn't from what I can see. The battery is said to be good for 4 years but for $3 at walmart I will change it once a year myself. I have only seen the doctor sight to compare and the Burris seems brighter on a sunny day like it is here today. Other than that the seem about the same on the outside. The doctor may be better built inside I don't know but it does cost twice as much also. The sight itself I really like it's super small and light, dot brightness is perfect in a dark room or outside with bright sun seems like it adjust well.The dot size is small enough to give me good accuracy at 100 yards on small targets. I will be shooting it later this evening and will have more of idea of what the good and bad points are. I will say that without the LaRue Iron Dot mount the sight would not take the bumps and blows my eotech 551 will with it's steel hood.I will be lookin in to adding a iron dot mount down the road myself but for now all's good and it seems sturdy enough.  I have it mount on a beretta storm 40cal to test out and will fire it after dark with mounted flashlight to see how the sight works with a flashlight in the dark.

 
5/4/2007 7:07:51 AM EDT
[#12]

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To change the battery the sight has to be removed from the base with two screws takes about 1 minute and I am sure the sight stays sighted in there is no reason it shouldn't from what I can see.

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Loss of zero is my main concern. If it is only held down to the base with two screws and there is no positive orienting/indexing feature, I doubt very seriously that it will return to its windage zero after removal. Is there something about the sight/base interface that forces it back to zero as the screws are tightened?
5/4/2007 8:13:37 AM EDT
[#13]

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Loss of zero is my main concern. If it is only held down to the base with two screws and there is no positive orienting/indexing feature, I doubt very seriously that it will return to its windage zero after removal. Is there something about the sight/base interface that forces it back to zero as the screws are tightened?


The Doctor indexes by way of steel pins in the mount base... and I believe the fastfire uses the same system.
5/4/2007 8:43:19 AM EDT
[#14]
In that case I need to order a Burris FastFire and mount for my G17L ASAP. Who has the best price on these that actually has them in stock?
5/4/2007 9:41:52 AM EDT
[#15]
That is correct there are some pins that force the mount and sight to line up when put back togather. I sighted in yesterday evening and today put a brand new Energizer 2032 battery in I notcied the one that came with the sight was a no name made in China or something battery so I wanted a good Japan made battery cell in the sight. Anyway I changed it out and shot 5 times impact point was still good at 50 yards. Overall The sight worked very well even with a flashlight. The only thing I could find is I noticed in very dark area outdoors rural farm I could see the red dot flickering like the sight was trying to adjust power(brightness) to adjust to the super dark area. It didn't affect the sights abilty to aim and shoot but I did find it alittle annoying. The FastFire seems to be a good little mini sight system I like it alot, but I still like my eotech's better in alot of ways for a Primary sight.
5/4/2007 10:08:55 PM EDT
[#16]
I agree about the EOTech. I'm planning to get a 512 in a LaRue mount for one of my AR's.

But for my G17L and Ruger Mk II, this Burris FastFire sounds like just the ticket.

I called Optics Planet, but they are out of stock. Anyone know of a vendor that actually has these in stock. If so, could you post the name of the business and the phone number to order?
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