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8/31/2006 9:35:16 PM EDT
Anybody have any actual experience/comments on the use and storage of red dots on a gun that is going to be exposed to cold on a regular basis.It will be bouncing about in a plane most of its life.  I have a friend who is going to an LE job in Alaska and he is going to buy a red dot for his AR.

He is  leaning toward an Aimpoint or an Eotech and was wondering which battery system or optic itself may better serve him in the cold!!!

Please don't turn this into an ARs in the cold discussion until we have addressed the cold weather optic question!!! Sometimes you have to dance with the one who brung ya.

Yes he will have an 870 for maneaters.

I was born an raised in MT but my experience with red dots has not been in the cold as you may tell by my address!!!!!!
8/31/2006 10:03:37 PM EDT
[#1]
I used an Aimpoint in deep snow during a trip to the Swiss Alps, it held up fine.

One thing to consider over the Eotech is that the Eo's have more of a reputation of "fogging" up compared to the Aimpoint. That said either optic would be fine, just becareful when transitioning from cold to warm environment. I find that putting the optic in an air tight, well insulated case in the cold than bringing it inside will help with any fogging issues.

Oh and since he'll be stuck out in the middle of nowhere I'd go with an Aimpoint just cause the battery will last longer than any human can survive in the cold just in case a problem ever arise. Not to mention the ability to use it as a giant ghost ring when your looking at miles and miles of the white stuff. That's just what I did when I realized anything on full looking at white snow in direct sunlight ain't gonna be too effective. A Troy front sight or the PRI would make it even better as a last resort "onset of snow blindness" type of sight.

So yah, Aimpoint.
9/1/2006 1:57:38 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Anybody have any actual experience/comments on the use and storage of red dots on a gun that is going to be exposed to cold on a regular basis.It will be bouncing about in a plane most of its life.  I have a friend who is going to an LE job in Alaska and he is going to buy a red dot for his AR.

He is  leaning toward an Aimpoint or an Eotech and was wondering which battery system or optic itself may better serve him in the cold!!!

Please don't turn this into an ARs in the cold discussion until we have addressed the cold weather optic question!!! Sometimes you have to dance with the one who brung ya.

Yes he will have an 870 for maneaters.

I was born an raised in MT but my experience with red dots has not been in the cold as you may tell by my address!!!!!!


I live and work as a leo in Alaska and my Eotechs have worked fine in regards to cold weather. I have also seen Aimpoints do fine.
Pat
9/1/2006 2:02:13 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I used an Aimpoint in deep snow during a trip to the Swiss Alps, it held up fine.

One thing to consider over the Eotech is that the Eo's have more of a reputation of "fogging" up compared to the Aimpoint. That said either optic would be fine, just becareful when transitioning from cold to warm environment. I find that putting the optic in an air tight, well insulated case in the cold than bringing it inside will help with any fogging issues.

Oh and since he'll be stuck out in the middle of nowhere I'd go with an Aimpoint just cause the battery will last longer than any human can survive in the cold just in case a problem ever arise. Not to mention the ability to use it as a giant ghost ring when your looking at miles and miles of the white stuff. That's just what I did when I realized anything on full looking at white snow in direct sunlight ain't gonna be too effective. A Troy front sight or the PRI would make it even better as a last resort "onset of snow blindness" type of sight.

So yah, Aimpoint.


All glass fogs when you come from outside to inside thats a fact of life up here. Eotechs are not worse than aimpoints in that regard. Also even the smallest village I have worked in has sold AA batteries. So thats not an issue.
Pat  
9/1/2006 6:18:32 AM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for the input!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9/1/2006 8:56:09 AM EDT
[#5]
Lithium AAs have better cold-weather performance, so if you're looking at an EOTech I suggest the AA model (also longer battery life).
9/2/2006 10:46:35 AM EDT
[#6]
my camera batteries wont work immediately when i step outside in the winter.  doestnt drain them, fine when back inside, just wont work outside.  i would not trust batteries only, zeroed buis a must.  what part of ak, it gets -50'F here.  i use a .50 beowulf with rra dominator and eotech and a2 fsb.  i would say the AA eotech has the ease of battery replacement.  clp will freeze up and your face will stick to a buffer tube up here too.
9/2/2006 2:48:24 PM EDT
[#7]
The Aimpoint's standard batteries are Lithium so they are good to go for Cold Weather.

EOTechs can use Lithium AAs but they are harder to find (and several times the cost) of standard Alkaline AAs.

Either will serve well.
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