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Posted: 12/6/2005 6:53:20 PM EDT
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Saving for a Trijicon 21 1.5-4x or ACOG Pros/cons of each? |
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I hear from reliable contact in the in the USMC that the Amber is out performing the Red in all light environments tests. Mike @ CSGW www.csgunworks.com [email protected] Here’s some testimonials about CS GunWorks for AR15 Board What do YOU have to say about CS GunWorks |
True statement. Our eyes are optimally focused for yellow light in the wavelength spectrum. It falls neatly on the retinal wall. Blues and violets are the shortest wavelengths and fall short of the retinal wall. Red light is the longest wavelength, and it is fatigue producing because it falls beyond the retinal wall causing the eye (lens) to work harder to focus it on the retinal wall. This is especially true of folks that are longer in the tooth, as we develop presbyopia (a hardening of the lens) naturally with age. This condition requires the eye muscles to work harder to manipulate the lens to see reds clearly... For example, 40 somethings often find it more difficult to read automobile gauges illuminated in red. Edited to add: my personal preference is Amber - I have a TA 47-2 and have had no issues with it whatsoever |
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I have a TA11e (red chevron .308) from Mike @ CS Gunworks. I live in TX (a lot of prairie), and I don’t have NV - red seemed like the obvious choice for my situation. (Mike will give you a great price btw; probably better than as advertised on their website; they’ll give you such a good deal you will wonder how they make any $$$!) |
Gosh, you stated this better than I ever would have!! Thanks 
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Victor: Sadly, a reflection of 14 years of having to explain limitations of the human eye, dark adaptation, and how night vision works as part of my annual proficiency test as an aviator - the topic is mandatory for the Army Aviation and is one that the Instructor Pilots love to dig into. Et al: I agree with Red_5, you have to try each color reticle and see which works best for you individually. Don't go off of someone else's preferences because your eyes and the environment you expect to use the optic are bound to be different. It's kinda of like BAC - some people can use it and others cannot no matter how hard they try. In theory it should work for everyone, but it doesn't. |
We actually have two former Army pilots in our squadron who could probably tell me all about eyes and dark adaptation. As a C-130 pilot I'm used to keeping the white lights on in the cockpit and watching DVDs until we enter the terminal area! I asked the red vs. amber question in a new thread, but unfortunately I can't try the two colors side-by-side. My only experience with illuminated reticles was the marvelous TA11 with the red donut, but I'd really love to get a TR21 for my M4. Does anyone know how someone who is red color-blind would see the two reticles? Not me, obviously (that would be a downer from flight status), but I'd like my wife to have the ability to shoot my carbine in a stressful situation. She sees reds as shades of grey. |
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I think it really comes down to where you prioritize the wife shooting it thing... I sense you like the red, but she is red color blind. Depending on who you order it from, I bet if you explained the situation beforehand (and you did not mount the scope) they would allow you to return the red within a short grace period and exchange it for an amber (shipping would be on you of course)... Get the red and let her look through it under varying lighting conditions. If she can make the shades of gray work, you are good to go... In your other post, you mentioned that you will be shooting it 90% of the time, so you should get what you want. When she decides to get her own AR and trijicon scope, consider yourself the luckiest man alive and then get her an amber! With great respect for Herc pilots who dare to land where others don't... Copperhead |
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Thanks, I just did my first "short field" landing today - on the first 3,000 ft of a 12,000 ft runway! Honestly, Navy Hercs don't do many exciting landings anymore, especially since we stopped operating in Antarctica. That's a good thing according to most of our 'older' pilots, but I'm young, dumb, and full of you-know-what. I think you may be right; a reasonable dealer may let me try one color and exchange it for the other if necessary. As for my wife buying her own AR, I won't hold my breath. She likes shooting but doesn't agree with buying more than the bare necessities. I've been trying to save for an optic for a very long time and it probably won't happen until my next pay raise! I appreciate the help. Now back to our regularly scheduled thread... |
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