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8/15/2005 3:50:35 PM EDT
I just received my SN-4 in the mail today.  Awesome glass!  I do however have a question.  At the 1x magnification, why do I have trouble using it with both eyes open like I would an Aimpoint?  The reticle (circle/chevron) is very blurry.  The 1.5 x scope on my Steyr Aug has no such problem.  
8/15/2005 4:44:21 PM EDT
[#1]
Are you looking at the target or the reticle?
8/15/2005 5:22:25 PM EDT
[#2]
I'm looking at the target.  It seems like the glass is distorting the image if I focus on the target instead of the reticle.
8/15/2005 5:51:09 PM EDT
[#3]
Do you have it mounted to the Rifle?

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8/15/2005 6:31:10 PM EDT
[#4]
Yes, I had it mounted to my rifle.
8/16/2005 7:53:43 AM EDT
[#5]
This is new to me.  Do you have the rear eyepiece adjusted to your eye?

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8/16/2005 6:14:48 PM EDT
[#6]
Yes, it's adjusted (for me with glasses on).  Everything is crystal clear when I aim at targets that are far away.  Both the reticle and target are even fairly clear at 1x when I focus on the reticle at cqb distances.  However, I've been trained to look at the target, not the reticle and when I do that, the reticle becomes a blur.  
8/16/2005 6:27:33 PM EDT
[#7]
I just tried ( I wear glasses), and I didn't experience what you've just described.  The reticle is clear while focusing on the target at 1X. Have you tried contacting John or Wendell at USOptics?
8/16/2005 6:53:07 PM EDT
[#8]
Well, it's good to know that it should work at 1x  I'll call the tommorrow.  Thanks.
8/16/2005 7:06:38 PM EDT
[#9]
please keep us informed.
8/17/2005 10:52:09 AM EDT
[#10]
I'm a friggin' idiot. Turns out, it was the focus. Since everything was clear except for cqb use, I thought the scope was already in focus.  Turns out, a little adjustment made it in focus for long and short distance crystal clear.  Feel free to reply with "See?"

Just a side note, it seems like the posi-lock mount is a little low for my taste. I really have to cock my head down to get a good sight picture. I would probably be better served with a higher mount. Arms 22 or Larue perhaps.
8/18/2005 1:23:58 PM EDT
[#11]
I think you've been a victim of parallax.
8/22/2005 6:04:21 AM EDT
[#12]
Don't feel bad...I got a Super Sniper used on the EE, and it had BC scope cover already on it.

I played with it a bit, then posted I didn't think the image quality was very good.  A couple of days later, I decided to play with it some more, and clean the lenses really good.  I took the BC scope covers off, only to find a nice shiny focus knob on the eye end of the scope.  
8/22/2005 1:53:16 PM EDT
[#13]



I broke my SN4.



C4
8/22/2005 2:44:03 PM EDT
[#14]
Dont worry Grant - buy a S&B Short Dot and all be good

I heard it worked anyway - at least enough to finish Pat's class (and congrats on High Carbine...)
8/22/2005 2:56:06 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Broken%20US%20Optics%20SN4.JPG


I broke my SN4.



C4




What happen?



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8/22/2005 5:09:49 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Dont worry Grant - buy a S&B Short Dot and all be good

I heard it worked anyway - at least enough to finish Pat's class (and congrats on High Carbine...)



I never used the illumination tool anyway!



C4
8/22/2005 5:12:29 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Broken%20US%20Optics%20SN4.JPG


I broke my SN4.



C4




What happen?



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Was doing an NSR to the chest and the thing just popped off! I left it hanging and did another NSR and it came completely off. www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8572&an=0&page=0#8572


C4
8/22/2005 5:31:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Grant - let me get this straight - you dont use it illuminated?

Even for movers or shooting while moving/mounted? - low Light?

I have been debating getting one for a while - but they promised a revolutionary scope at SHOT two years ago for CQB, while discussing some other optic version...
8/22/2005 6:16:13 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Grant - let me get this straight - you dont use it illuminated?

Even for movers or shooting while moving/mounted? - low Light?

I have been debating getting one for a while - but they promised a revolutionary scope at SHOT two years ago for CQB, while discussing some other optic version...



I have never shot it illuminated, but I also have not been in a low light condition.



C4
8/22/2005 7:46:05 PM EDT
[#20]
Pat let you guys off not shooting at NIGHT?

- bad Pat...
8/22/2005 7:57:01 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
Pat let you guys off not shooting at NIGHT?

- bad Pat...



I shot Pats carbine at night with the PVS-14 mounted behind the M2. I had a mag in my right rear pocket, and attempted to load the rifle right handed for convenience....the result? A quick smack on the back of the head and a whistling voice: "What, you think just cause it's dark I can't see you fuckin' up?"  I never attempted to load a mag right handed again!
8/23/2005 3:45:11 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Pat let you guys off not shooting at NIGHT?

- bad Pat...



I shot Pats carbine at night with the PVS-14 mounted behind the M2. I had a mag in my right rear pocket, and attempted to load the rifle right handed for convenience....the result? A quick smack on the back of the head and a whistling voice: "What, you think just cause it's dark I can't see you fuckin' up?"  I never attempted to load a mag right handed again!




LOL, that sounds about right!



C4
8/23/2005 4:06:13 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Pat let you guys off not shooting at NIGHT?

- bad Pat...



I shot Pats carbine at night with the PVS-14 mounted behind the M2. I had a mag in my right rear pocket, and attempted to load the rifle right handed for convenience....the result? A quick smack on the back of the head and a whistling voice: "What, you think just cause it's dark I can't see you fuckin' up?"  I never attempted to load a mag right handed again!





"Don't fuck up!"
8/23/2005 4:09:25 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Pat let you guys off not shooting at NIGHT?

- bad Pat...



I shot Pats carbine at night with the PVS-14 mounted behind the M2. I had a mag in my right rear pocket, and attempted to load the rifle right handed for convenience....the result? A quick smack on the back of the head and a whistling voice: "What, you think just cause it's dark I can't see you fuckin' up?"  I never attempted to load a mag right handed again!





"Don't fuck up!"





8/23/2005 4:34:08 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Pat let you guys off not shooting at NIGHT?

- bad Pat...



I shot Pats carbine at night with the PVS-14 mounted behind the M2. I had a mag in my right rear pocket, and attempted to load the rifle right handed for convenience....the result? A quick smack on the back of the head and a whistling voice: "What, you think just cause it's dark I can't see you fuckin' up?"  I never attempted to load a mag right handed again!





"Don't fuck up!"











Grant, off topic, but that round cooking off must have been a real eye opener.  Good thing you showed discipline for even the most mundane task.


On topic, I now find myself rearranging budgets to allow a scope like this into my "arsenal".
8/23/2005 4:42:11 AM EDT
[#26]
I don't know if this is normal or not, but it seems like the focus for 1x is slightly different for the focus at 4x.  I have to adjust the focus 1/8 of a turn depending on the magnification.
8/23/2005 8:20:33 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Pat let you guys off not shooting at NIGHT?

- bad Pat...



I shot Pats carbine at night with the PVS-14 mounted behind the M2. I had a mag in my right rear pocket, and attempted to load the rifle right handed for convenience....the result? A quick smack on the back of the head and a whistling voice: "What, you think just cause it's dark I can't see you fuckin' up?"  I never attempted to load a mag right handed again!





"Don't fuck up!"











Grant, off topic, but that round cooking off must have been a real eye opener.  Good thing you showed discipline for even the most mundane task.


On topic, I now find myself rearranging budgets to allow a scope like this into my "arsenal".





It was a REAL eye opener and taught me a lot about muzzle discipline for sure. I was an interesting experience to say the least.

After running a variable power optic through the MEU SOC course (and understanding its benefits) I will NEVER buy a fixed power optic (ACOG). Aimpoint's and EOTech's are awesome for CQB, but If your shooting at greater distances and want flexibility then go with a 1-4 power IMHO.


C4
8/23/2005 11:11:19 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:After running a variable power optic through the MEU SOC course (and understanding its benefits) I will NEVER buy a fixed power optic (ACOG). Aimpoint's and EOTech's are awesome for CQB, but If your shooting at greater distances and want flexibility then go with a 1-4 power IMHO.


C4



+1

Unfortunately it makes keeping up with the Jones expensive if you dont have an R&D budget helping float you.

8/23/2005 11:52:56 AM EDT
[#29]
Grant, I don't want to throw this thread off topic, but I've been thinking about the round that went off between your feet. Do you think it was possible the match trigger somehow screwed up, and it let the hammer drop even with the safety on?
8/23/2005 1:49:31 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
Grant, I don't want to throw this thread off topic, but I've been thinking about the round that went off between your feet. Do you think it was possible the match trigger somehow screwed up, and it let the hammer drop even with the safety on?




No. I have also put the weapon on safe and pulled on the trigger as hard as I can.



C4
8/23/2005 2:40:05 PM EDT
[#31]
I've seen some cookoffs from relative low round cound shoots.
Mostly with civlian ammunition the powder/primers seem to be less heat tolerant.

But it does kinda reinforce the Laser rule don't it.

8/23/2005 3:06:12 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
I've seen some cookoffs from relative low round cound shoots.
Mostly with civlian ammunition the powder/primers seem to be less heat tolerant.

But it does kinda reinforce the Laser rule don't it.




Ammo was M855. The laser rule is in effect!


C4
8/23/2005 3:14:32 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:Ammo was M855. The laser rule is in effect!


C4



never doubted your adherance to the laser - just a good note for some of our other listeners (especially the bump fire crowd...)

Hmm I would not have expected that from M855 but...
8/23/2005 3:46:25 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:Ammo was M855. The laser rule is in effect!


C4



never doubted your adherance to the laser - just a good note for some of our other listeners (especially the bump fire crowd...)

Hmm I would not have expected that from M855 but...



Agree. Most shooters believe that if the weapon is safe then they are GTG (not true).



C4
8/23/2005 5:51:22 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:Ammo was M855. The laser rule is in effect!


C4



never doubted your adherance to the laser - just a good note for some of our other listeners (especially the bump fire crowd...)

Hmm I would not have expected that from M855 but...



Agree. Most shooters believe that if the weapon is safe then they are GTG (not true).

C4




Having the safety on still does not nullify Rule 2 and what happened just reinforces this.  I'm glad it all turned out okay.

As long Grant has hands he can still pack my orders so he's still GTG without a foot or two...

On the subject at hand, I'm finding myself more and more attracted to variable low power(1-4x) scopes these days.  If I can find one I really like I may even skip the magnified EOTech.
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