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12/4/2004 7:28:15 PM EDT
I'm thinking of getting an Aimpoint CompML2 for my soon to be built M4gery.

I want to stay as close to the US Military as possible.  What would be the correct mount for this sight to go on the flat top upper of my carbine?
12/4/2004 9:09:15 PM EDT
[#1]
a lot of the pics from Iraq I see have the aimpoint QRP mount.  YMMV.........
12/5/2004 4:58:49 AM EDT
[#2]
The QRP was the early one and now a lot of the ARMS 22M68 have been now also fielded with the ability to be raised or lowered as required on various set ups, via the spacer , and the QD lever they wanted.
Jack
12/5/2004 5:28:01 AM EDT
[#3]
Cool!  Thanks for the info.  Looks like I'll go with a Comp ML2,  ARMS 22M68 and spacer!
12/5/2004 5:54:43 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
a lot of the pics from Iraq I see have the aimpoint QRP mount.  YMMV.........

+1
12/5/2004 7:52:19 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I'm thinking of getting an Aimpoint CompML2 for my soon to be built M4gery.

I want to stay as close to the US Military as possible.  What would be the correct mount for this sight to go on the flat top upper of my carbine?




Another mount that the military is using is the LaRue Tactical CCO mount...


C4

www.gandrtactical.com

12/5/2004 10:01:50 AM EDT
[#6]
Buy the LaRue, save yourself 2 or 3 oz of weight (compared to the ARMS) and gain the ability of being able to adjust to ANY rail (in spec or not)!
12/5/2004 11:54:39 AM EDT
[#7]
The 22M68 doesn't need to be adjusted every time it is swicthed from one rail place to another and don't need a wrench. They are very lite wt. and modular, not stuck at one ht., can be used low, med. high, and cantilever. Thats why so many are in service and are std. equipment, also advertised and sold by Aimpoint.
Jack
12/5/2004 11:56:53 AM EDT
[#8]

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The 22M68 doesn't need to be adjusted every time it is swicthed from one rail place to another and don't need a wrench. They are very lite wt. and modular, not stuck at one ht., can be used low, med. high, and cantilever. Thats why so many are in service and are std. equipment, also advertised and sold by Aimpoint.
Jack




Why so defensive Jack? No one said anything about the #22M68.....



C4
12/5/2004 12:02:09 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Buy the LaRue, save yourself 2 or 3 oz of weight (compared to the ARMS) and gain the ability of being able to adjust to ANY rail (in spec or not)!



Realy?
12/5/2004 12:14:35 PM EDT
[#10]
I like the look of the ARMS better. They both seem good, so I'm goin' with ARMS.
12/5/2004 12:20:08 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

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The 22M68 doesn't need to be adjusted every time it is swicthed from one rail place to another and don't need a wrench. They are very lite wt. and modular, not stuck at one ht., can be used low, med. high, and cantilever. Thats why so many are in service and are std. equipment, also advertised and sold by Aimpoint.
Jack




Why so defensive Jack? No one said anything about the #22M68.....



C4



Defensive? That did not seem defensive to me. I know your a dealer and a board sponsor and all, but you really should quit trying to pick fights.
12/5/2004 12:53:26 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Buy the LaRue, save yourself 2 or 3 oz of weight (compared to the ARMS) and gain the ability of being able to adjust to ANY rail (in spec or not)!



Realy?




He was referring to the weight of the ARMS #22M68 VS the weight of the LaRue. He then went on to say that you gain the ability to adjust to the throw lever to match an out of spec rail (nothing to do with the #22M68). Your comment after his was that you don't need a wrench (referring to the LaRue Tactical mount) to go from one rail to another. You also forgot to mention that the ARMS throw lever and can be to tight and or to loose on a rail BECAUSE you cannot adjust it to match the rail.


C4
12/5/2004 12:56:02 PM EDT
[#13]

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Quoted:

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The 22M68 doesn't need to be adjusted every time it is swicthed from one rail place to another and don't need a wrench. They are very lite wt. and modular, not stuck at one ht., can be used low, med. high, and cantilever. Thats why so many are in service and are std. equipment, also advertised and sold by Aimpoint.
Jack




Why so defensive Jack? No one said anything about the #22M68.....



C4



Defensive? That did not seem defensive to me. I know your a dealer and a board sponsor and all, but you really should quit trying to pick fights.




Not picking a fight, but am making sure the facts are correct. Jack has his opinion and I have mine. I will not allow him to make people believe that there are no issues with his throw levers....



C4
12/5/2004 12:58:40 PM EDT
[#14]
If you want the QRP, you'll also need the spacer.

I have them available here: www.adcofirearms.com/scopes.cfm?page=optics
12/5/2004 1:51:16 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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Quoted:
The 22M68 doesn't need to be adjusted every time it is swicthed from one rail place to another and don't need a wrench. They are very lite wt. and modular, not stuck at one ht., can be used low, med. high, and cantilever. Thats why so many are in service and are std. equipment, also advertised and sold by Aimpoint.
Jack




Why so defensive Jack? No one said anything about the #22M68.....



C4




Defensive? That did not seem defensive to me. I know your a dealer and a board sponsor and all, but you really should quit trying to pick fights.




Not picking a fight, but am making sure the facts are correct. Jack has his opinion and I have mine. I will not allow him to make people believe that there are no issues with his throw levers....



C4



This will be my final reply and you may have the word.

In your post that I quoted and replied to you said "Why so defensive Jack? No one said anything about the #22M68....."

At no time did you make an attempt to give information in regards to the LaRue mount. The statement that you made to Jack clearly contained "inflamatory speech" .

I have obtained and shared information on this board. I have taken note that most threads that turn into flame wars have you in them once again using "inflamatory speech"  and offering you elitest opinions on optics.

A lot of the posters here are honest working class people and cannot always afford the finest there is out there. They wish to discuss their purchases, choices or simply seek information and you come along and flame their choices.

Being a dealer I would think you would conduct yourself accordingly. Many here post about receiving poor service. I am sure your service is good when an order is placed. Due to your "imposing personality" I would not give you my business.

Since you are a dealer and you want to "be helpful" to all in ARF.COM land. How about using your  dealer status and arrange some group buys on all this wonderful equipment that you feel so strongly about. You wont make as much, but in volume you will make enough.
12/5/2004 1:59:33 PM EDT
[#16]
Seems that anytime I try to give a (factual bit of info) I need to put on a flak vest from incoming, luckily they are not very accurate.
Jack
12/5/2004 2:07:31 PM EDT
[#17]
I've been using the ARMS #22M68 in different configurations for about 5 years, with no problems at all. I like the ability to change the height with different spacers based on the application.

Another mount that has often been overlooked is the PRI high mount. I've been using one of these for about two years also, and I've been impressed with its ruggedness. It costs more than the ARMS mount ($169 vs. $99+spacer), but I feel it's a worthy contender if you won't need the height adjustment or tool-less quick release of the ARMS mount.

I use and sell both, the ARMS seems to be more popular but they're both great mounts..
12/5/2004 2:11:52 PM EDT
[#18]

This will be my final reply and you may have the word.

In your post that I quoted and replied to you said "Why so defensive Jack? No one said anything about the #22M68....."

At no time did you make an attempt to give information in regards to the LaRue mount. The statement that you made to Jack clearly contained "inflamatory speech" .

I have obtained and shared information on this board. I have taken note that most threads that turn into flame wars have you in them once again using "inflamatory speech"  and offering you elitest opinions on optics.

A lot of the posters here are honest working class people and cannot always afford the finest there is out there. They wish to discuss their purchases, choices or simply seek information and you come along and flame their choices.

Being a dealer I would think you would conduct yourself accordingly. Many here post about receiving poor service. I am sure your service is good when an order is placed. Due to your "imposing personality" I would not give you my business.

Since you are a dealer and you want to "be helpful" to all in ARF.COM land. How about using your  dealer status and arrange some group buys on all this wonderful equipment that you feel so strongly about. You wont make as much, but in volume you will make enough.




Your a around here so I will give you the benefit of the doubt as you most likely do know who "Jack" is. With your "elitest opinions on optics" comment you must be a turdpoint lover! If this is the case then you and I have two very different opinions of the world. You want to support communist made knock off products and I do not. People that KNOWINGLY buy Chinese made products for their AR will always get a response that they most likely won't like. I make NO apologies for that (is my opinion on the subject). I am always fascinated when people say that I should watch what I say because I am dealer. Why? Should I sugar coat everything in an attempt to get a sale?? That would be wrong in my book. If people don't like what I have to say then they don't have to shop with me! For everyone of you that say that they will never give me there business I get 10 more people e-mail me saying that they like what I say and my anti-communist position.

As far as a group buy goes, I cannot keep up with the LaRue Tactical order I have now!


C4
12/5/2004 2:12:45 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Seems that anytime I try to give a (factual bit of info) I need to put on a flak vest from incoming, luckily they are not very accurate.
Jack




Jack, please let me know when the facts starting come out....


C4
12/5/2004 2:13:32 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
I've been using the ARMS #22M68 in different configurations for about 5 years, with no problems at all. I like the ability to change the height with different spacers based on the application.

Another mount that has often been overlooked is the PRI high mount. I've been using one of these for about two years also, and I've been impressed with its ruggedness. It costs more than the ARMS mount ($169 vs. $99+spacer), but I feel it's a worthy contender if you won't need the height adjustment or tool-less quick release of the ARMS mount.

I use and sell both, the ARMS seems to be more popular but they're both great mounts..




Agree that the PRI is a very good mount as well....


C4
12/5/2004 2:30:15 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Seems that anytime I try to give a (factual bit of info) I need to put on a flak vest from incoming, luckily they are not very accurate.
Jack




Jack, please let me know when the facts starting come out....


C4



My facts are directed to people who want to know and read ref books, patents, etc., to verify. Not to somone that is giving a website for members to see in support of products that he is promoting. That is a fact
Jack
12/5/2004 2:44:38 PM EDT
[#22]
Can we get this thread back on track please.


We've hashed this argument out over and over and we all know where we stand on it.
12/5/2004 2:49:42 PM EDT
[#23]

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Can we get this thread back on track please.


We've hashed this argument out over and over and we all know where we stand on it.



I'm all for that.
Jack
12/5/2004 2:52:02 PM EDT
[#24]

My facts are directed to people who want to know and read ref books, patents, etc., to verify. Not to somone that is giving a website for members to see in support of products that he is promoting. That is a fact
Jack




Jack, I hope your not referring to the Black Rifle II book. That is nothing more than an ad for ARMS. Yes I know that ARMS has patents (who doesn't). You are promoting ARMS just like I promote LT. What's the difference??? Are you jealous that I have a website and you don't? Another fact is that I PAY to promote products on this board. You do it for FREE! Pretty soon your going to have to get a dealer account on here Jack!



C4
12/5/2004 3:11:56 PM EDT
[#25]
Can't we just once have an intelligent discussion about an optic mount without it becoming a mess?
12/5/2004 3:54:29 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Can we get this thread back on track please.


We've hashed this argument out over and over and we all know where we stand on it.




Sure we can. You are a moderator, get C4iGrant squared away. You have to admit he is very imposing and assuming, and as his statement that I am a "TURDPOINT" lover, if that is not talking shit, I dont know what is.

Statements like that are a consistant behavior for him.
12/5/2004 4:05:24 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Can we get this thread back on track please.


We've hashed this argument out over and over and we all know where we stand on it.




Sure we can. You are a moderator, get C4iGrant squared away. You have to admit he is very imposing and assuming, and as his statement that I am a "TURDPOINT" lover, if that is not talking shit, I dont know what is.

Statements like that are a consistant behavior for him.




I did a search on your postings for the last 3 months and see that you are a turdpoint lover for sure! I love it when a WAG comes true!

You are also barking up the wrong tree with Lumpy. He is after all the one that named the tacpoint the turdpoint!

C4
12/5/2004 4:23:44 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Can we get this thread back on track please.


We've hashed this argument out over and over and we all know where we stand on it.




Sure we can. You are a moderator, get C4iGrant squared away. You have to admit he is very imposing and assuming, and as his statement that I am a "TURDPOINT" lover, if that is not talking shit, I dont know what is.

Statements like that are a consistant behavior for him.




I did a search on your postings for the last 3 months and see that you are a turdpoint lover for sure! I love it when a WAG comes true!

You are also barking up the wrong tree with Lumpy. He is after all the one that named the tacpoint the turdpoint!

C4



Ok, See four eye Grant.




I was letting you have the last work earlier, then you have to a reply to a post  that was not even intended for you. You just proved my point that you are an imposing individual that looks for fights.

Unlike you, I am not one to make assumptions. However, I think it would be reasonable to conclude  that since you refer to Lumpy so much, he must be on of your "good ol boys" and the fact that he is a moderator, that he allows you to behave in the fashion that you do.

If you want to look up past posts, look up your own posts and tell us what percent of them were locked due to a flame war that you participated in.

Oh yeah, IBTL.
12/5/2004 4:31:51 PM EDT
[#29]

Ok, See four eye Grant.

www.politicalpoop.com/Monkey_Nerd_with_Glasses.jpg


I was letting you have the last work earlier, then you have to a reply to a post  that was not even intended for you. You just proved my point that you are an imposing individual that looks for fights.

Unlike you, I am not one to make assumptions. However, I think it would be reasonable to conclude  that since you refer to Lumpy so much, he must be on of your "good ol boys" and the fact that he is a moderator, that he allows you to behave in the fashion that you do.

If you want to look up past posts, look up your own posts and tell us what percent of them were locked due to a flame war that you participated in.

Oh yeah, IBTL.




Hey nice monkey! Look just like your momma! Lumpy is neither my "good ole boy" or a customer of mine (sorry to disapoint). I could really care less how many threads I have been involved that were locked. If there was someone being a dumbass (or hiding behind a false screen) in a thread I will call them on it. There are always two sides to every story and most likely the people I got into an argument with deserved it!

C4
12/5/2004 5:00:15 PM EDT
[#30]
lt557,

What if LaRue had cratered to "Jack's" crap when "Jack" was ripping LaRue a new one with all his b.s. A.R.M.S statements earlier this year ?  And so now you're asking the same moderators that knowingly stood by and did nothing during that episode to step in now ?

Sorry, but that's BS.

12/5/2004 5:19:51 PM EDT
[#31]
IBTL!

12/5/2004 5:28:24 PM EDT
[#32]
balisong, you get the only one
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