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7/4/2004 3:45:24 PM EDT
I've got an A2 upper.  If I'm going to add any kind of scope or optics would I be better off or save any money by getting an A3 upper  rather than by a $100 + dollar Ben Cooley co-witness mount for the carry handle?  Also, if I did have an A3 upper, is there a rear sight that I could attach to the rail that would allow me to use the factory mounted front sight and co-witness through a red dot scope?
7/4/2004 4:42:35 PM EDT
[#1]


I'm using an Aimpoint ML2 optic with an ARMS #22M68 mount with cantilever extension. My back-up iron sight (BUIS) is an ARMS #40. It allows me to cowitness my irons through the optic perfectly.
7/4/2004 6:00:38 PM EDT
[#2]
KISS (keep it simple stupid).  Everything is right here, no flip sights or receiver swaps:

-- Chuck
7/4/2004 7:12:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Chuck, what kind of mount is that and do they make one to fit full size handgaurds - I've go t a dissapator.  
7/5/2004 9:06:55 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Chuck, what kind of mount is that and do they make one to fit full size handgaurds - I've go t a dissapator.  



My shooting buddy is using the above mount, or something VERY similar on a full length preban (I think) Colt with no problems. Not to insult your intelligence, the mount screws into the hole on the A2's carry handle and from there you can mount what you please. If you ask me nice maybe I can nab a picture or two of the mount on his AR and his mount on my AR. That rail is about as KISS as you can get and only runs around $60 depending how hard and where you look. Some of them come with ~45 degree mounts for the side as well so you'll have (roughly) / - \
7/5/2004 9:59:09 AM EDT
[#5]
I have  A2 & A3, you  should  consider using YHM  two  piece  handguard.
My Aimpoint  cowitness perfectly, also have the DPMS rear sight.

TG
7/5/2004 11:32:07 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Chuck, what kind of mount is that and do they make one to fit full size handgaurds - I've go t a dissapator.  



ARMS #39-A2. It should fit over dissipator handguards no problem

"For the A1 and A2 carry handles on M16 rifles".
"does not fit on detachable handles."
7/5/2004 2:17:23 PM EDT
[#7]
It looks like it is also attached to the front of  the hand gaurd - that's why I asked it would fit a dissapator-  the one above is mounted on a carbine handgaurd.  
7/5/2004 4:03:45 PM EDT
[#8]
Where it appears attached to the handguard is just an ARMS "brush breaker". It's a stamped steel part that screws to the front of the mount to keep brush and other assorted wilderness from getting wedged in your rifle. It's removable.

I've used an ARMS#38s-ex (same length as the #39-A2) on a dissipator and the brush breaker, when attached, protrudes into one of the vent holes on A2 rifle length handguards. The brush breaker will contact the top aluminum heat shield, but only slightly scratched the finish after all day at the range. The brush breaker barely affects accuracy... adds about 1" @ 225yds.
7/5/2004 4:48:49 PM EDT
[#9]
chuck, you can use your irons with that mount?  looks like it would block it.  Unless there is a big channel down the middled of the top part.  
7/5/2004 6:24:13 PM EDT
[#10]
Uhm, you already have a A2, good excuse to get an A3. That way you have both.
7/5/2004 7:01:36 PM EDT
[#11]
Kind of a shitty picture, but I use this







Cowitnesses perfectly with the OKO, I would imagine an aimpoint with correct mount would work. Also, my handguards aren't free floating the barrel, it works for me but you may want to get some that are.
7/7/2004 4:53:58 PM EDT
[#12]
chuck?  chuck?
7/7/2004 5:38:53 PM EDT
[#13]
Aimpoint® with KAC RAS

7/8/2004 2:32:28 PM EDT
[#14]
madprofesser, what is it and how much did you pay for it?  Does it hurt the hands?  Thanks for the post sir.
7/8/2004 2:47:07 PM EDT
[#15]
They are ArmaLite ALOSTYR rails and I paid around $210 for them from Quantico Arms. The optic is a OKO relex I got from the EE. And yes it does hurt your hands, thats why I got some Magpul rail covers. Your welcome.



7/8/2004 4:16:01 PM EDT
[#16]
May not be the type of scope you want but a fella can't miss a chance to show his stuff.

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