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4/24/2004 7:22:04 PM EDT
I bought a 6x40 "Government Model" scope for my AR10 about 2 months ago. I had somewhere around 300 rounds through it before today, maybe less. After about another 100 rounds the reticles shifted, instead of the vertical reticle being at 12 and 6 it is now at 1 and 7. Since there is a level at the bottom you can tell easily that the reticles have moved, rather than scope.

It is a few years old from the literature that was in the box, but I did buy the scope new in box. Ah well maybe I can talk Springfield into trading me for something else since I doubt I am getting my money back and I am skeptical about getting another one of these.

Oh like I said the scope was purchased NIB had maybe 300 rounds through the rifle with it mounted and was used only at the range. It was not subject to any blows, dropped or anything else, other than riding around in the case in my truck and going to the range.
4/24/2004 8:22:07 PM EDT
[#1]
You ain't the only one; a friend of mine had the 3rd gen model on his M1A, and it lasted all of 60 or so rounds before he heard pieces of glass rattling around in it. I had a 4.5-14x40mm that did ok, but after the MANY reports I've seen of SA scopes being garbage, you couldn't give me one.
4/25/2004 7:21:10 AM EDT
[#2]
Have a second Gen springfield scope here, also on a AR10, eight shots , then the scope went blurry, return to Springfield for service three week, then  back on the rifle, about 200 round and seems ok now.

Last year the scope specs were changed by Springfield to a max of 50 mm objective instead of the 56mm.

So far so good with the scope , If I have more trouble I will sell the Springfield and buy something else that has the first focal plane reticle and the rangefinding, really like the first focal plane reticle, on the variable scope.
4/25/2004 7:26:19 AM EDT
[#3]
I have a six year old 1st generation model that's has thousands of rounds run though it. Sorry, works fine.

Now my Aimpoint Comp M is on its way to the factory for the second time in six weeks.
4/25/2004 6:20:39 PM EDT
[#4]
I have seen many problems from diff people with SA Scopes.
4/25/2004 6:59:46 PM EDT
[#5]
A buddy of mine's SA 3rd Gen broke after something like 20 or 30 rounds of .308 on a 700P.  Springfield took good care of him and had it back to him in about 2 weeks.


It was immediately put on ebay upon the return and he went and bought a Leupold M3.    


Don't ya love happy endings


4/26/2004 8:04:41 AM EDT
[#6]
Aimless, that is crap. Call Springfield for sure. Maybe you can trade it in towards an M1A
4/26/2004 8:10:07 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Aimless, that is crap. Call Springfield for sure. Maybe you can trade it in towards an M1A

[FINGERS IN EARS] NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH I CAN'T HEEEEEAR YOUR![/FINGERS IN EARS}
4/26/2004 8:30:16 AM EDT
[#8]
That hearing loss problem can be readily explained by the AR10 blast enhancer on the end of your carbines barrel
4/26/2004 12:47:44 PM EDT
[#9]
Well they were very nice, of course, and said to send it in as it was a problem they were familiar with. I guess we will see.

Good thing it's just me and not some guy heading off to Iraq intending to put it on a m14 or something.
4/26/2004 11:18:01 PM EDT
[#10]
Aimless,

As others have noted, this is an all-too-common problem.  The old 1st Gen Springfields were pretty good optics, but later models kept having "extra features" added, while at the same time lowering design/build quality to keep the prices down.  I know at least a dozen people who HAD Springfield scopes, and all of them NOW have Leupolds.  Exactly 0% would own a Springfield again.

-Troy
4/27/2004 2:11:08 AM EDT
[#11]
I had the SA 6-20x 3rd gen, bought it brand new and after a few rounds of .308 the zoom ring stuck at 8x. I lost the warranty forms and the box but I called them anyway. The good thing was SA customer service is first rate, and the repair cost me nothing. The scope was returned in a week or so, with a note from their technician that I should not turn the W&E to the max because it would cause the leaf springs broken and the piece caused the inner tube stuck when turned.
5/8/2004 6:44:51 PM EDT
[#12]
I think the problem is with the scopes that have that reticle with all the brackets you use to estimate range with.  We use a 3rd Gen MIL-DOT on a .300 WINMAG and have had no trouble *knock on wood*.  Good to know that they have good customer service in case something does happen though.
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