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Posted: 9/4/2003 8:57:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2003 10:12:09 AM EDT by Zak-Smith]
Here's a couple large pictures of the rifle I used at the Rocky Mountain 3Gun match in Raton last month. In particular, you can see the TA11 & ARMS #19S combo which worked well:

http://www.demigod.org/~zak/pictures/rm3g-2003-preview/bad-stage7-3.jpg
http://www.demigod.org/~zak/pictures/rm3g-2003-preview/bad-stage7-4.jpg
http://www.demigod.org/~zak/pictures/rm3g-2003-preview/bad-stage7-1.jpg
http://www.demigod.org/~zak/pictures/rm3g-2003-preview/bad-stage7-2.jpg
http://www.demigod.org/~zak/pictures/rm3g-2003-preview/bad-stage4.jpg

Notice how far forward the TA11 is mounted. The long (2.4") eye relief of the TA11 is an advantage because it allows more peripheral vision, and for a nose-to-charging handle hold, I mount it at the forward end of the flat-top. The BAC worked very well in the short-range rifle stages, but for very close range hosing you still need to do something else.

Full report and pictures here: www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37394

-z


-z
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 9:49:56 AM EDT
Hi Zak: Which reticle do you have? The Donut or Chervon? BTW nice pictures. Good shootin, M4C
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 10:24:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2003 10:24:30 AM EDT by Zak-Smith]
I have the base model TA11 (no suffix) which is the Donut Of Death. On anything close (50-75 yards) or at-speed, it just appears as a glowing red dot. If you focus more particularly, or at long ranges, the donut is apparent. I spent some time behind a TA01 (without BAC) and I like the glowing BAC way better. Acquisition of closer targets is really fast. -z
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 10:48:17 AM EDT
By the way, I spoke to Curt Monnig - the Trijicon rep - at this match. He's a real nice guy. -z
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 11:25:59 AM EDT
GREAT location for a match [:D]
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 6:37:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2003 6:42:47 PM EDT by Spooge5150]
Now! Question! Can the TA11 series fit on flat top of m4 with RAS II and still have proper eye relief? EDIT: NICE PICS MAN!
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 6:50:33 PM EDT
Great pics. Looks like you had a good time as well.
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 6:56:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Spooge5150: Now! Question! Can the TA11 series fit on flat top of m4 with RAS II and still have proper eye relief? EDIT: NICE PICS MAN!
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Still? It's got eye relief to spare! I want to mount it further forward but the hump stops it [:)] [img]www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/p51100528a291eebfd6ca64abbbf762f8/fc188b77.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 7:10:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2003 8:15:59 PM EDT by Zak-Smith]
If you have to mount it further to the rear, you'll just need to move your head farther back on the stock. I have mine mounted so far forward because I go nose-to-charging handle. At the optimum eye relief, the black "ring" that separates what you see through the scope from what you see around the scope is thinnest. If you move your head forward, it gets thicker and you lose some peripheral vision. If you move rearward, the field of view through the scope gets smaller. I could actually stand to move it a little further still, to fully minimze the "black ring".. but this is a good compromise which allows my head to be back somewhat from the charging handle if the shooting position requires it. The RM3G match was a BLAST. If you like shooting your AR, pistol, and shotgun in "field" courses, I highly recommend you go next year. -z
Link Posted: 9/4/2003 7:21:07 PM EDT
Thank You Guys! I just changed my mind from a TA31F to TA11F.
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 6:22:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Zak-Smith: If you have to mount it further to the rear, you'll just need to move your head farther back on the stock. I have mine mounted so far forward because I go nose-to-charging handle. -z
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I also use the nose-to-charging handle approach, something that was drilled in my head during marksmanship training while I was in the service. I have my TA11 on a ARMS #19S as far forward as it will go and no matter if I'm doing casual shooting or 3 gun matches or shooting from odd positions the eye relief is always perfect. [img]http://home.ctcweb.net/~mramazin/Jeff/MVC-012F.JPG[/img] Zak, Did you shoot in the big LEO 3 gun at Pueblo West in July? I saw a flyer for the Raton match but was unable to make it. A couple of they guys I work with scored pretty high in the Raton Match. Stay safe
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 8:23:13 AM EDT
USMC03, I agree, the TA11 is really forgiving w.r.t eye relief. And it's fast. No, I didn't make that match. I was under the impression that the LEO 3Gun at Pueblo was only for LEO's. I'm an electrical engineer, so I don't think I qualify. Point Blank body armor was the sponsor for stage 7 ("Sarajevo Point Blank") so we had to wear body armor. No, I'm not "POLICE." Sorry for any confusion. -z
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 9:35:06 AM EDT
Zak, No problem, I saw the vest and thought....well you know. I believe that Randy Wills set up the stage you were talking about, he's another guy that I work with. I heard that match down at Raton was a blast. Take care,
Link Posted: 9/7/2003 9:29:42 PM EDT
I finally got all the pictures scanned in. Here's a link to all of them: [url]http://demigod.org/~zak/pictures/rm3gm-2003-thumbnails.shtml[/url] -z
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