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Posted: 7/19/2003 3:31:10 AM EDT
Anyone have experience with this sight? It's 199.99, and features a see through mount with a rear peep sight & a weaver style scope mount on top.
Link Posted: 7/19/2003 4:26:47 AM EDT
Its probably the most retarded optical platform created for an AR15. Please, please get something else. Anything else. It puts your rear iron sight apperature way to far away from your eye for absolutely no good reason and puts the mounting rail much higher than necessary. Just say no.
Link Posted: 7/19/2003 9:17:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2003 4:20:24 AM EDT
So what would you recommend? I want to mount a 10X for long range stuff, but would like to be able to use open sights for close up stuff.
Link Posted: 7/20/2003 6:29:40 AM EDT
How long is long range? If you wanted to keep access to irons and have a high power optic I'd just recomend using a cary handle mount. With the optic up that high its not the best solution, but at least you rear sight will be where it needs to be and not so far forward.
Link Posted: 7/20/2003 6:29:43 AM EDT
Is your rifle a flattop? If it is, you could get a detachable carry-handle/rear sight and then mount a see through scope mount (like the DPMS) on it for your 10x scope.
Link Posted: 7/20/2003 10:00:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2003 10:04:02 AM EDT by Duffy]
Why, it's easy, get an ARMS #38, #22 QD rings and you're all set, just make sure the scope clears the backup iron on the #38, don't make the same mistake I did [BD] Got a #38 for the SN4 just to realize the scope doesn't clear its BUIS (if I move the scope forward ahead of the BUIS it would be fine, but then I'd have to crank my neck in an unnatural position to use the scope, doesn't work for me), and had to get a #36 instead. [img]www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid70/p7b3679c3bfa6dc9f6f3bb155f77dbde1/fba2a17d.jpg[/img] On another setup I used the #38, and #22 high rings with a Leupold VeriX III and it was perfect.
Link Posted: 7/20/2003 6:29:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By new-arguy: Its probably the most retarded optical platform created for an AR15. Please, please get something else. Anything else. It puts your rear iron sight apperature way to far away from your eye for absolutely no good reason and puts the mounting rail much higher than necessary. Just say no.
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Anothert Terrible design. Goes in the trash heap with the Leupold CQT.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 1:26:02 AM EDT
Or maybe I should just forget about using both at once. My rifle is a flat top. I was hoping to use the scope for 150 yards +, sights for everything else.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 1:37:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2003 1:37:36 AM EDT by knightone]
Originally Posted By new-arguy: How long is long range? If you wanted to keep access to irons and have a high power optic I'd just recomend using a cary handle mount. With the optic up that high its not the best solution, but at least you rear sight will be where it needs to be and not so far forward.
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But it would still mount your optic pretty high above the bore. I have never seen a good way to get extreme long range accuracy and still retain effective use of the rifle for CQB and normal engagement distances. It is either have a dedicated sharpshooter or have a combat effective weapon. The only truly viable option is to get a ARMS throw lever mount for your scope and a flip-up rear sight. This way, if the engagemet distaces fell below 100meters, you could flip the throw lever and flip up the BUIS and have iron sights for close encounters. This would be the best choice for range work too, as it seems you want to mount and remove the scope often. the throw lever mounts are the easiest way to do this and probably the best way to retain zero with a scope.
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