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Posted: 6/3/2003 5:48:13 PM EDT
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I am in the market for a reasonably priced red dot scope for my 16" carbine. I am looking at the OKO 4 MOA sight with the M4 carry handle mount (I have M4 handguards on my rifle) Anyone have any feedback on this sight? I am planning to mount it forward of the carry handle so I can cowitness my iron sights. I can get the whole setup (sight, mount & steel scope cover) for $267 from Brownells. |
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I didn't add it up to compare with Brownell's price, but these guy sell them too. [url]http://www.coalcreekarmory.com/CavOKO.htm[/url] I have only shot a few hundred rounds on an OKO equipped M4, but it was flattop mounted with no rear sight so I don't know about cowitnessing. Seemed pretty good for the price based on the very little I used it. I think the cover might be a good investment. |
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You'd be wise to jump on that price from Brownell's if you can truly get it for that amount. I sell the sight myself, buying directly from the importer, and won't attempt to compete with that price. Problem is, There are temporarily no SC4 covers available, and the SC3 covers won't work with the carry handle mount unless heavily modified(even then it can't be adjusted for elevation). Brownell's hasn't updated their pricing to reflect the new pricing set from the importer. Brownell's is paying more for them than what their dealer pricing is on them. I doubt that will last very long. [;)] [url=www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=23&t=168649]Here's my ad.[/url] I can match prices [i]within reason[/i] with other dealers who have the same product [b]in stock[/b] and ready to ship. |
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You are correct about their listed retail prices. I receive a discount from Brownells. I am active duty military & I work in one of our arms rooms. Brownells gives us a discount on most of our items with the exception of tools. Stock Number Description Price Quantity More Info Total Remove Favorite Add to Cart 100-000-211 4MOA OKO TYPE W TARGET SIGHT $150.00 $150.00 100-000-366 SC-3 OKO SCOPE COVER $53.35 $53.35 100-000-980 CAVALRY ARMS M4 CARRY HANDLE MOUNT $64.00 $64.00 |
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Quoted: TennVol, The SC3 cover will not work (unmodified) on the forward carry handle mount. The rail is two notches too short to use the cover. Treetop has modified them to use on the forward carry handle mounts before, he can probably talk you through the process. Will the SC4 mount work w/o being modified? |
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Quoted: Quoted: TennVol, The SC3 cover will not work (unmodified) on the forward carry handle mount. The rail is two notches too short to use the cover. Will the SC4 mount work w/o being modified? We tried to fit one on today and it wouldn't work without being modified either. |
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I don't want to step on any toes here, but why doesn't it fit? If Cavalry Arms is selling these items, at the very least I would expect a disclaimer on the web site stating the parts may have to be "fitted". They sell the sight, the cover and the forward carry handle mount. Right? This doesn't seem like a new problem, or is it? Maybe it's me, but does this pass the common sense test??? |
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Quoted: I don't want to step on any toes here, but why doesn't it fit? If Cavalry Arms is selling these items, at the very least I would expect a disclaimer on the web site stating the parts may have to be "fitted". They sell the sight, the cover and the forward carry handle mount. Right? This doesn't seem like a new problem, or is it? Maybe it's me, but does this pass the common sense test??? Just because a 31/10.5/15 tire will fit on a 15X8" wheel and a 15X8" wheel will fit on a Honda Civic doesn't necessarily mean that it will work together as a package. [;)] These are parts that are designed for the OKO sight, but by different manufacturers for different applications. |
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Quoted: No offense, but how did you score such a great deal from Brownells? I just went to their site and that setup was $345 + shipping. I've been loooking at the OKO too, and I'm always in the mood to save a buck. Brownells has separate pricing for dealers, and they also extend that pricing to certain LE/ Military/ Gunsmiths. TennVol is quoting dealer pricing rather than the pricing available to the public. |
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Quoted: I don't want to step on any toes here, but why doesn't it fit? If Cavalry Arms is selling these items, at the very least I would expect a disclaimer on the web site stating the parts may have to be "fitted". They sell the sight, the cover and the forward carry handle mount. Right? This doesn't seem like a new problem, or is it? Maybe it's me, but does this pass the common sense test??? I just checked the site I had a disclaimer on there before, but somehow it must have gotten deleted or reverted to an earlier version of the HTML file. I have corrected the problem, thanks for pointing it out. [url]http://www.cavalryarms.com/okosights.html[/url] The reason they do not work together is the SC3 and SC4 were made available for us to import after we had already designed and started selling the carry handle mount for several months. We will be making the SC3 and SC4 in the US in the near future...making a carry handle mount that works with the shield or making the shields work with the mount is something we are considering. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I don't want to step on any toes here, but why doesn't it fit? If Cavalry Arms is selling these items, at the very least I would expect a disclaimer on the web site stating the parts may have to be "fitted". They sell the sight, the cover and the forward carry handle mount. Right? This doesn't seem like a new problem, or is it? Maybe it's me, but does this pass the common sense test??? I just checked the site I had a disclaimer on there before, but somehow it must have gotten deleted or reverted to an earlier version of the HTML file. I have corrected the problem, thanks for pointing it out. [url]http://www.cavalryarms.com/okosights.html[/url] The reason they do not work together is the SC3 and SC4 were made available for us to import after we had already designed and started selling the carry handle mount for several months. We will be making the SC3 and SC4 in the US in the near future...making a carry handle mount that works with the shield or making the shields work with the mount is something we are considering. Sign me up for a SC4 or the new carry handle when you have the first batch made up! Thanks for the info and the help. Looks like my SC3 will be making a return trip to Brownells this weekend. Also, does anybody know if the A.R.M.S.® Model #39 A2 Plus Mount or the EOTech Cantilever mounts will work? On the website it appears the A.R.M.S is several notches longer than the Cavalry Arms mount. Oh yeah, one other thing: Will they clear M4 handguards? |
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Quoted: No offense, but how did you score such a great deal from Brownells? I just went to their site and that setup was $345 + shipping. I've been loooking at the OKO too, and I'm always in the mood to save a buck. Get a C & R license, send a copy to Brownell's and voila, you get the discount. They give discounts to dealers and other folks, but the C&R qualifies as well. First one I mailed off when I got my license was to Brownell's. |
| From what I've read and seen the ARMS #39 should work fine, and it is a very high quality piece. In case you are not aware of it, Bushmaster is selling the Benny-Cooley carry handle mount which is also a quality piece, but is height adjustable to vary the co-witnessing picture w/ the iron sights. It sells for about the same as the ARMS #39. |
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I got my OKO a few weeks ago and like it alot. I am waiting on an SC4 mount though - which is just required for me to get it to the right height to cowitness with my sights. I have an OLY 16" A3 with a single rail front gas blcok, DPMS folding sight (which was too tall and had to be filed down to work) and an ARMS #40. It sure beats that cheap BSA I was using when I first got the upper, though I won't be making any 200 yard shots with it! |
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Quoted: I got my OKO a few weeks ago and like it alot. I am waiting on an SC4 mount though - which is just required for me to get it to the right height to cowitness with my sights. I have an OLY 16" A3 with a single rail front gas blcok, DPMS folding sight (which was too tall and had to be filed down to work) and an ARMS #40. It sure beats that cheap BSA I was using when I first got the upper, though I won't be making any 200 yard shots with it! 200 meter shots aren't any problem for me with the OKO 4W[;)] [url]http://www.cavalryarms.com/vids/CAV15OKO200meters.WMV[/url] The video is from a 3 gun match, I'm shooting steel plates (3/4 man size and smaller) out to 200 meters with my 20" CAV-15 with 4 MOA OKO. |
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